Sonic Youth Gossip - so, umm, Bull in the Heather

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- - so, umm, Bull in the Heather (http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=2947)

ok so betting on the bull means betting on a horse. but what the hell does in the heather mean? heather? what the hell is that?

heather is meadow

some say the bull is a cock

some say the heather is an asshole

some say i am an asshole

some feed a horse a banana

in the video a horserace is shown. horses also figure into the cd artwork & one can literally bet on a horse named "The Bull in the Heather", but the lyrics are poetry, so they can be intrepreted on many levels

specifically, what is heather?

meadow is heather

the bull in the pasture

plowin' the back forty

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Originally Posted by FruitLoop

hmmm, also, isn't it one of the songs where Steve uses a maracas (spelling???) in lieu of a drumstick? I think he does it in the video, but I haven't seen it for a loooong time.

Yes he uses the shaker as a drum stick.

I love it when he does that.

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Originally Posted by FruitLoop

hmmm, also, isn't it one of the songs where Steve uses a maracas (spelling???) in lieu of a drumstick? I think he does it in the video, but I haven't seen it for a loooong time.

yeah, "little shaker" is idiot language for maraca

the song is about sex..
check the lyrics..
i thought it was pretty obvious, as "bull" is a very potent symbol...

10, 20, 30, 40
Tell me that you wanna hold me
Tell me that you wanna bore me
Tell me that you gotta show me
Tell me that you need to slowly
Tell me that yr burning for me
Tell me that you cant afford me
Time to tell yr dirty story
Time fr turning over and over
Time fr turning four leaf clover

Betting on the bull in the heather

10, 20, 30, 40
Tell me that you wanna scold me
Tell me that you a-dore me
Tell me that youre famous for me
Tell me that yr gonna score me
Tell me that you gotta show me
Tell me that you need to sorely
Time to tell yr love story
Time fr turning over and over
Time fr turning four leaf clover
Betting on the bull in the heather

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Originally Posted by kill_yr_evol_sister

yeh, what does the phrase "betting on the bull in the heather" actually mean? i have some ideas but i wasn't sure, so i thot i'd ask you guys.

maybe she's talking about a tryst with a woman that made her realize the value in a mature relationship.

The TRUE meaning of Bull In The Heather

10, 20, 30, 40 (you gotta have "stayin' power" as Barry White sang)
tell me that you wanna hold me (Kim wants me to hold her)
tell me that you wanna bore me (She wants me to drill deep ifyaknowwhatimean)
tell me that you gotta show me (she knows I can't keep Big Red in my pants)
tell me that you need to slowly (she knows I am gonna take my time to savor it)
tell me that yr burning for me (Big Red does get quite hot)
tell me that you can't afford me (She's so out of my league but she wants me so bad)
time to tell yr dirty story (she likes when I describe how I fucked her th last time)
time f'r turning over and over (then we get to rollin in the sheets)
time f'r turning four leaf clover (refers to a tantric position she likes to do with me involving a 69 position and contorted legs.)

betting on the bull in the heather (all her o'gasm chips are laid down on Big Red)

10, 20, 30, 40 (she's referring to hard poundin minutes)
tell me that you wanna scold me (she likes when I spank her hard, makes mer come to feel so degraded )
tell me that you a-dore me (she also likes sweet nothin's in her ear AFTER the spankings.)
tell me that you're famous for me (she normally hates fanboy shit but...)
tell me that yr gonna score me (top prize)
tell me that you gotta show me (again, can't keep it in my pants around her.)
tell me that you need to sorely (yeah, I got blue balls baby)
time to tell yr love story (she is my rock goddess)
time f'r turning over and over
time f'r turning four leaf clover
betting on the bull in the heather

here is my take...

a delicious wordplay

Bull can obviously can mean an animal or a 'bull market'. Merrill Lynch's logo is a bull and I believe they are out of New York...

http://www.adversityuniversityblog.c...y-travis-s.jpg

Heather is the plant which is quite common around this time of year.
http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=95251&rendTypeId=4

So a bull in the Heather is an aggressive animal waiting to pounce.

The second meaning is presumably related to American hyperized sexual roles. Whether it be quartback and cheerleader roles, or banker and submissive roles. 'Betting' on the bull in the heather seems to acknowledge the inevitably of these two forces colliding. The phrase also seems to infer that there isn't much more to these people than the roles they play.

Heather is obvioulsy a name for a girl. The whole phrase is even more amzing when you see an animal lurking in the wilds. It gives the phrase a greater meaning...

You don't need and incredible imagination to know what 'in' means

Bob Nastanovich of Pavement is/was a big horse bettor- anyway, cut a long story short, he gave Kim a bumper sticker for a horse named Bull In The Heather that had been racing in the Kentucky Derby. Or something like that. It was just the name of a horse. The bumper sticker can be seen within the single art.

See? Y'all are reading far too deep into this shit.

where the fuck is atari 2600 anyway

the name may have been about the horse, but the song is about ballsdeep copulations

I always thought this track was about oxycontin (10mg, 20mg, 30mg, 40mg etc.)

"Tell me that you wanna score me"
"Tell me that you can't afford me"
"Time fr turning over and over"