oh thanks! really looking forward to hear it...

how does one play a rar file?

it's an archive format, like zip files.

http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
it's not officially "free" but you can use the trial version for an unlimited time.

thank you

i didn't read all of these posts, so this may already be old news, but i see midheaven has dead c future artists release date as may 21 2007, i'm fucking excited, you should be too! the hi god people split was intense! i was fortunate enough to witness this dead c experience in 2002 on this exact record

http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/3546

Dusted Reviews


Artist: The Dead C
Album: Future Artists
Label: Ba Da Bing!
Review date: May. 3, 2007

It's been four long years since New Zealand's merchants of grimy noise-rock released The Damned. In that time we've seen bands like Wolf Eyes and Sightings (to name just a couple) rise to, if not fame, certainly some reasonable recognition for plying similar waters. The title of this album's first track may contain some indication that The Dead C know their place: "The AMM of Punk Rock," while self-referentially winking, isn't far off. The Dead C have, for the past 20 years, been toiling on the sidelines showing how to improv your way through territory that isn't quite rock, isn't quite punk, isn't quite noise, isn't quite anything but what it is. Whether it's something you will enjoy is quite another question, of course, and it's certainly unclear how The Dead C feel about your answer.

That first track is 13 minutes of desultory drum hits, mildly buzzing static and squeaky scrapes. That buzzing static may be the one constant throughout the album's five songs, all of which flaunt a distinct layer of audio crud. For 10 minutes, "The AMM of Punk Rock" remains a formless, meandering sound field, with occasional irritating high-pitched bleeps, before it coheres into a vague chug, powered by feedbackish noises. It's followed by "The Magicians," unique here both for its brevity (just under four minutes) and its song-like form, complete with laid-back vocals (it's the only one here that's got 'em). Despite the singing and strumming guitar, the drums remain simple thumps hidden behind a curtain of clanging guitar scree, and the whole contraption rattles along like an old truck, threatening at any moment to fall to pieces.

That feeling of impending collapse lingers over the whole album. The glitchiness of "Macoute" often resembles a motor in need of a tuneup. Its stereo field of whooshes and buzzes is interrupted by stop-start noises, odd breaks in the flow of time. "Eternity" is thick with atmosphere, a dark, dank guitar strum with ringing drums that over time becomes filled with jagged guitar textures until a crude, driving riff begins to poke through the rough, Skullflower'd noise. "Garage" closes things with angular, awkward guitar plucks and strums over muttering static and occasional interjections of electronic bleep. It eventually breaks down into vaporous waves of hiss and crunch, with sporadic guitar strums, until it comes to an end with a lethargically wavering buzz which abruptly cuts off.

Future Artists raises many questions, from its title - are they themselves the artists of the future, or are they waiting for some future in which to become artists? - to its intent. For every moment of intrigue, there are moments of aggravation; for each recognizable string pluck, there are abstract fields of sound to be plumbed. On first listen, the seemingly purposeful and self-conscious lack of focus was more annoying than interesting, but subsequent airings began to reveal rewarding details. It's an album that doesn't allow for early conclusions. Only time will tell whether Future Artists receives further listens or is relegated to the status of not-fully-baked. The jury is still out.


By Mason Jones

maybe hE SHOulD HAVE LIstened to it more than once before he reviewed it then?

Ah, I was planning to bump this thread one of these days after I've listened to it. Found the new album on soulseek last week, but haven't listened to it all the way through yet.

It's not out yet though, is it? That review says May 3rd, but last time I checked it was May 22nd or something like that... and now CD Universe is even saying June 19th... :confused:
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinf...=7419853&BAB=M

It appears to be available on the Ba Da Bing! website:
http://badabingrecords.com/catalog.html

And at an impressively reasonable price too - US$10 in the US, US$12 elsewhere.

Yeah, that review is pretty rubbish. Too much time taken describing the sounds. I find that pretty pointless to be honest, I hate reading more than a couple of lines on what it sounds like.

whoa, only $12 including shipping. I'm on it, thanks.

so what do you like to read in a record review?!

More context, less describey stuff. I like to have an idea of what it sounds like but you can generally sum it up quicker. That's why I like Byron Coley's writing I think. He'll usually write one sentence about what it sounds like and it's usually sort of nonsense sounding but it usually captures what things sound like well.

I'm probably being a bit harsh...I think it's more to do with the way the guy in that review describes stuff, a style that a lot of journos share, that annoys me.

actually i kind of agree with you, i think most record reviews are far too long. they only really need to be about 5 sentences.

Yeah, I was specifically thinking of that round-up column that Coley sometimes writes in the Wire with a few sentences on each. They get right to the point and make me keen to hear stuff more than the lengthier reviews.

they should just have byron coley write all the reviews, with additional assistance from dave tompkins

I only can support this sort of mindset so far because you reach a certain point where the reality of the music media relies heavily within the digital format of CD... and i still alot of releases only exist in cd and not both LP and CD, so in many cases (more than some i have to say) if you only buy LPs you are missing out on potentially a lot of great music, whether you like the format or not...

its rare for me to get warped records in the mail, sure its happened but its rare and i've bought alot of records via snailmail... hint on unwarping warped records from a friend who owned a record store for over 15 years: heat them with a hair dryer and then gently flex while its in a vertical position and then put it in its respective jacket smack in the center of a whole slew of records that are stored vertically. i haven't tried it but i trust it works...

thanks for making the live recording available pokkeherrie.

Dead C interview in Mountain Fold music journal:

http://www.mountainfold.com.au/image...LD_ISSUE_2.pdf

BTW, has anyone read the book collecting Bruce Russell's writings? Splendid to look at, but I understood very little of what I was reading. (Which is definitely more a reflection on me than on the writings)

Thanks for the interview!

My copy of Bruce Russell's book arrived a few days ago, but I haven't started reading it yet. Going by your comments and the back cover blurb it sounds like it's a fairly theoretical book.

I'll probably leave it in the shrink-wrap for at least another month because I'm already going through a pile of 4-5 English books at the moment and when that's done I'd imagine I'll probably want to read something in Dutch again first.

Finally took it out of the shrink wrap this morning and while browsing through it, it does look like it's not an easy read, at least not for a non-native speaker like me. I'm gonna have to keep my English dictionary right next to it.


Did anyone get the Clyma est Mort/Tentative Power reissue?
There's supposed to be a CD inside the 2LP, but mine doesn't have one. boohoo. :(
For those who have it, is it a loose CD or something with a cover? Does it have just the Tentative Power tracks or also Clyma est Mort?

There's an interesting story by Tom Lax on the Volcanic Tongue site about the making of Clyma est Mort:
Cowbell Need Not Apply: The story behind the making of the Dead C’s Clyma Est Mort

i read an interview with bruce russell recently where he said he deliberatley uses vague or oblique language, here:

I've been really into the 'Free Noise Manifesto' lately. Did you have a
background in philosophy?

I did a couple of degrees. I was in the political studies department but my
focus was on political philosophy. I've always been interested. I've done a bit
of reading, I guess. Part of the manifest…part of the presentation is slightly
tongue-in-cheek in the sense that it's couched in some fairly oblique
indeterminate language. Also, at the time I was trying to make a point that
there is more to music than writing the perfect pop song. Where I was in the
south island of
New Zealand,
basically there was this overwhelming orthodoxy that writing the perfect pop
song is all that matters. I was trying to make a point that there is a lot more
to music than that and maybe that's a worthwhile pastime but a sad ambition. I
don't regret having written that manifesto by any means. At times, it has become
a bit of an albatross for me because people tend to regard it as the
be-all-end-all of what I do. It's a little bit limiting in some ways but I stand
by most of what I said. You must understand, I wrote it…when did I write it…I
wrote it about 15 years ago. It was very combative, at that point, because I
felt that I was kind of going to bat against the odds in terms of where I was
coming from in New Zealand. I've recently republished it in a book of essays
that I've done. I certainly still stand by it, I guess.

full interview here:http://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/dead-c

New album "Patience" coming out October 12th on BaDaBing!






Patience is both appropriate and inappropriate as a title for the latest release by The Dead C--inappropriate because it's been only two years since the last album, which in Dead C Time is but the flicker of a candle; appropriate since the key to enjoying their sounds is willingness to sit down, listen and let the music take over your mind. These four unforgiving and intense tracks will not be confused with the work of any other band. Recorded in Dunedin over the Southern summer of 2009/10, Patience captures a restless band that never settles into any form. The trio of Michael Morley, Bruce Russell and Robbie Yeats makes their improvised music sound like the most substantial ever recorded, no matter in what direction they go. Here, vocal-less, thick and thundering electric drones compound and retreat like a Pacific Ocean of noise. Morley once again provides the artwork and continues in his color palatte of late. Its circular, flowery texture provides the perfect mandala for contemplation while lost within the deep meditations that Patience inspires.


sound samples here:
http://www.midheaven.com/item/patience-by-dead-c-cd

Bruce Russell was quoted in The Guardian about the NZ earthquake.

For those outside the US who are getting the vinyl it is probably cheapest to (pre-)order it from cdwow: €14.99 with free shipping.

They have the CD as well but that's cheaper from the BaDaBing store.





What did he say? I was wondering if it had struck them actually because I knew he's from Christchurch (I think Michael Morley is from Dunedin?).

edit: nevermind, I found it
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...ch-new-zealand

Excellent re: the new release. I wish they'd play some shows here to coincide with the release, but that's pretty unlikely. They have some shows in Melbourne though, according to last fm. Seems silly to have to chase them to Australia to catch a show.

how difficult would it be to book a show for them yourself?

looking forward to the new record, the little samples sound good.

Great with a new album coming out! It's so strange listening to that new Gate album, it's good but so different from everything Gate and The Dead C has released before. I wonder if this will take a similiar approach to the recording, of if you'll still be able to hear that it is a Dead C record you're listening to!

from the sound clips on the badabing website it definitely sounds like a dead c record.

on dime The Dead C 2010-10-02 Melbourne aud master by crankingamps

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DEO6GJS9

artist: The Dead C
venue: Northcote Uniting Church, Melbourne, Australia
event: Static Age Festival - Stage 1 (Hall Stage)
date: Saturday 2 October 2010

1. one continuous piece (30:30)
(it may actually be 3-4 pieces but I can't pick or separate them)

Bruce Russell - guitar
Michael Morley - guitar, occasional vocals
Robbie Yeats - drums

recorded/encoded/seeded on Dime by crankingamps 18Oct10

lineage: Core Sound HEB (matched DPA4061) mics
> Core Sound Battery Box (flat response, no filter)
> Edirol R-09HR digital recorder (line in)
> 16GB PNY Class 6 SDHC Card as 24-bit 48kHz .wav file
> Adobe Audition 3 convert to 16-bit 44.1kHz, normalise (+8dB), trim top/tail (sector aligned)
> FLAC Frontend 1.7.1 (level 8)

The Dead C 2010-10-03 Melbourne aud master ....

artist: The Dead C
venue: Northcote Social Club, Melbourne, Australia
date: Sunday 3 October 2010

1. one continuous piece (47:21)
(it may actually be 3-5 pieces but I can't pick or separate them)

Bruce Russell - guitar
Michael Morley - guitar, occasional vocals
Robbie Yeats - drums

recorded/encoded/seeded on Dime by crankingamps 19Oct10

lineage: Core Sound HEB (matched DPA4061) mics
> Core Sound Battery Box (flat response, no filter)
> Edirol R-09HR digital recorder (line in)
> 16GB PNY Class 6 SDHC Card as 24-bit 48kHz .wav file
> Adobe Audition 3 convert to 16-bit 44.1kHz, trim top/tail (sector aligned)
> FLAC Frontend 1.7.1 (level 8)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F4WCO4OK

Just to say that I was listening to "Helen She Said" right now and... Fuck, does that song rock! I'm getting more and more submerged on this wonderful Dead C world.

New Dead C album titled "Rare Ravers" coming in 2018!

The Dead C putting out new stuff
 

Ok, this will likely be more controversial than Trump. What is the obsession with "push button" ignition? I dont see the advantage in the new cars that have it, and the old stuff just looks silly with it. I see in hot rod catalogs "kits" and many just replace the key with an industrial button switch, but never do I see an advantage. From a mfg stand point it is likely cheaper to mfg a bunch of "fobs" with their own distinct code than a bunch of keys which have a limited number of combinations, but it has been proven to be no more secure than the old key switch. So why the obsession with retro-fitting it to older cars?

Tom Carter has a subscription series on Bandcamp and the September release was a duo recording with Michael Morley from 2013!

New Dead C LP out in January.

There was a nice cassette bonus, but looks like that's sold out. Cassette box included a reissue of Repent which has gotta be one of the top 10 live records ever, plus some 2000s era vinyl sides: Golden/Canine and LA Confidential/LA Blues. I know for sure that the former is a classic Dead C burner.

https://badabingrecords.bandcamp.com.../rare-ravers-2