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!@#$%! 11.04.2018 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
(Yeah yeah, I can't fuckin' stay away from this car crash....)

Can someone please explain why Native American organizations are very quick to criticize Elizabeth Warren for her actions regarding her ancestry, but it's complete crickets when it comes to Trump and his Pocahontas slur?


“native americans” is a very broad brush. pan-indianism, or whatever one may call it, is a recent phenomenon brought about by common interests. there are many native tribes, each with their own culture, traditions, agendas, etc.

so, the main people who criticized warren were the cherokees. cherokees have money they dont want to spread around, and have marginalized “black cherokees” who are the descendents of the slaves they once owned and fucked (oh yes they did). cherokees were originally from the carolinas...

they recently had to accept them as members. see: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher...en_controversy

other people also complained mainly on the basis of tribal sovereignty—tribal membership is decided by tribes not dna tests. which, sure. obviously.

some natives did come out in her defense though. as you know natives are not a monolithical entity.

but anyway there was plenty of protest when pocahontas was first uttered

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ise/902837001/

as for the mental one, we will not give it a further platform by discussing it.

Skuj 11.04.2018 11:11 PM

Thanks. Digesting.

(Nevermind seems to have posted 62 times in 12 years. Perhaps 62 times too many?)

!@#$%! 11.04.2018 11:40 PM

yeah. warren never claimed tribal membership, only ancestry, which the dna proves.

the harvard listing is another story and im not clear on that.

back in the day though a drop of indian “blood” made you an indian. same as black. and it was the white people who would then exclude you that determined that identity. not that the tribe would accept you.

these days however tribes are the ones who decide who is a member, gets a casino check, is eligible for ihs coverage, scholarships, etc. there are federally recognized tribes and there are tribes who arent (and often fight for recognition).

indian law is a huuuuge area actually. forget about digesting it.

ilduclo 11.05.2018 11:27 AM

 

!@#$%! 11.05.2018 12:05 PM

@DEMONYO

found this pretty good read

https://quillette.com/2018/05/05/lib...l-egalitarian/

evollove 11.05.2018 01:40 PM

Don Delillo: America's fucked

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/20...-lies-bleeding

ilduclo 11.05.2018 02:02 PM

oh, we've gotten thru worse, Shrub and Reagan, f'rintance

Skuj 11.05.2018 02:08 PM

So, am I reading this right? Even Fox News pulled the Trump Ad?

tw2113 11.05.2018 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
So, am I reading this right? Even Fox News pulled the Trump Ad?



That's what I heard on social media, as credible as that can be at times.

Skuj 11.05.2018 02:24 PM

I'm very nervous about tomorrow. Maybe the polling is all wrong? (Like in 2016?) And I'm really fucking baffled about how many tight races there are after two years of this nightmare. How can there not be a blue wave?

The Dems need a leader, fast. And hopefully not one in his/her late 70s. Fuck, come on Dems.

Skuj 11.05.2018 02:25 PM

Are young people actually going to vote this time? Really?

!@#$%! 11.05.2018 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Are young people actually going to vote this time? Really?

who knows

but i just reminded some

demonrail666 11.05.2018 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
@DEMONYO

found this pretty good read

https://quillette.com/2018/05/05/lib...l-egalitarian/


The site won't load for me :(

ilduclo 11.05.2018 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Are young people actually going to vote this time? Really?


This is the increase in early voting among 18-29 year olds over 2014.

Arizona: +217%
Florida: +131%
Georgia: +415%
Kansas: +191%
Michigan: +128%
North Carolina: +170%
Nevada: +364%
Ohio: +134%
Pennsylvania: +397%
Tennessee: +767%
Texas: +448%
Virginia: +351%

Skuj 11.05.2018 05:13 PM

Wow. Come on, America. This last two years is not who you are.

GravitySlips 11.05.2018 05:52 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-nbc-facebook

More fake news ads from an embarrassing President.

Good luck America on mitigating the influence of this idiot and the Regressive Party.

Bytor Peltor 11.05.2018 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
This is the increase in early voting among 18-29 year olds over 2014.

Texas: +448%


Ted has this on Cruz Control winning 60/40......surely Beto can garner 40%?

!@#$%! 11.05.2018 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
The site won't load for me :(

very strange.

anyway it discusses classical & egalitarian liberalism, various proponents, and ultimately argues the threat to liberalism does not come from unserious postmodernism (lol) but from, eh, call it “inherent contradictions” or whatever (no it’s not marxist).

please let me know if it still wont work tomorrow. maybe the pc police blocked it? :D

(i hope i dont start to sound like a reactionary...)

anyway the... i thought it’s a good... map

choc e-Claire 11.06.2018 12:06 AM

Why does this thread never register that I've read the posts on it? It thinks the last one I saw was five pages ago :(

Bytor Peltor 11.06.2018 12:44 AM

RUSH LIMBAUGH UNLEASHED:

- "Hillary Clinton colluded with Russia."
- "Hillary Clinton rigged that election.”
- Joe Biden “can’t fill a phone booth” on the campaign trail
- Bill Clinton, Obama envious & jealous of Trump's crowds


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