i don't like playing with money-- i'd rather sock it away for the alpacalypse next to my gold ingots

bytor peltor bets a lot though-- in sports at least

maybe ask him

nah, really, i'll match you in a boxing ring no problem, but i don't treat money like a toy anymore--it's a philosophical choice

how about 3 rounds though? first to hit the mat loses.

WAIT WAIT I HAVE AN IDEA

we can bet-- but the one who loses eats their shoe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGcWTIWYDMQ

what's your weight class?

in the best condition i could make middleweight but i'm definitely on the heavy category now ha ha ha

I'm curious, evollve. The Basket of Deplorables and their fascist idol were in your town last night. Did you dare enter their hellish chamber?

There was a protest I was invited to. But bad weather. Plus I'm lazy. Today, I regret not going. But Hillary should be here in a few weeks. Might be fun to protest that, just for the sake of protesting, which is more fun than applauding.

i hope we can find some dumbass to take the bet because i also have my money on not even merely Clinton simply anyone not Trump. Hell, Mitt Romney could replace Overlord Hillary for the democrats and thump Trump by a million votes ;)

go to a drumpf rally and likely you'll find many takers

honestly i doubt that even they actually believe they can win

if they didn't, they wouldn't be trying

also, if they lose they'll claim "the polls were rigged!"

nobody here i think (except greenlight) would put money on a trump victory, but on some sort of spread i'd bet that trump will come safely within 4 points of hillary in the popular vote, likely 2 when all is said and done, and could get as close as .5% with more goebbels techniques like the ones pointed out by soup nazi

i mean, the fucker could conceivable win-- i'm not gonna put money on him, actually or hypothetically, but like i said, in russian roulette it's only a 1 in 6 chance of blowing your head off, so, the danger remains extreme.

Maybe but that could be because they overestimate the commitment of the Hillary camp. I do predict Clinton to win but Trumps supporters will come out and vote en masse. I'm not sure Clinton's support will do the same.

There are parallels with the Brexit/Remain vote. Even those leading the brexit campaign conceded defeat on the night but it turns out many of those who said in polls they were voting remain, never bothered to on the day. 73% of 18-24 voted remain, but only 36% actually voted. The core Brexit vote was 50plus, and they had a roughly 80% turnout.

Obviously not saying Clinton only appeals to youth or that Trump only attracts the middle aged but they are seen as appealing to one far more than the other.

I do still think she'll win but if I had to rely on one candidates core support to come out as a block, it'd be Trumps.

but that is the thing. Clinton DOESN'T have the "young vote", the core of here base are middle aged white people

and i get it btw, in any other election or candidate i wouldn't be so dismissing. indeed last year i am on record here saying the next president would be a "rich, elitist white man Republican" BUT Trump is too toxic to take advantage of all the racist backlash created by Obama presidency.

low turnout elections favor republicans though, as you know from midterms

sure, trump isn't a traditional "republican", and a portion of the establishment has turned against him, but the biggest mistake in any conflict is to underestimate your opponent. fortunately you're not the one running hillary's campaign or she'd be chasing trump by now

and we still have the debates to go-- fuck knows what will come of them. benito has already been trashing hillary's readiness and continuing with the attacks on her health.

democracy is a goddamn blackmail

you better vote for one of us we might murder less middle eastern civilians than the other its all up to you

nuke the planet

because you know the threats of what would be the oldest person inaugurated president carry a lot of weight when talking about health and longevity.

also low turn out cuts both ways, Republicans are even less enthusiastic about Trump than Democrats are about Overlord Hillary.

True story. The latest poll I read about this said that among HRC voters 60% support Hillary because they dig her, and 40% do it because Donaldo gives 'em the heebie-jeebies. Virtually the exact opposite happens with Drumpf: 40% will vote for him because they love his putridity, while 60% would rather cut off their own dicks before having Clinton as president.

So, if you're twisted enough, you could conclude that Never Hillary > Never Trump...

trump is bloated, so he looks unwrinkled, and also he gives off "youthfulness" aura with melania on his arm. plus he's full of bluster and takes meds for "high energy," so it's not what he is (old, bloated, rambling, cardiac) but what he projects to the uninformed (rich, powerful, high energy, speaks his mind) that counts.

the other part soup nazi already gave you a good reply

sure but 70 is 70 no matter how the cake is sliced. sometimes i think you put too much into optics and gossip BUT then i remember you love politics so i get your alarm

i do find the age of these candidates and including Bernie Sanders who was popular for a time to reflect the growing gerantocracy in American life. Old people have more power than ever, its hilarious frankly hence my Kurt Cobain dinosaur comments which seem more and more literally true every day!