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Rob Instigator 06.01.2018 08:30 AM

Trump wants to remove all German cars, even though hundreds of thousands of them are built in plants IN THE USA with US workers.

Skuj 06.01.2018 12:54 PM

And once again The Dems shout loudly from the hilltops. I think.

!@#$%! 06.02.2018 08:09 AM

trump brings on the death throes of white hegemony

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...9e7_story.html

Let’s not be deceived: The racial wedge Trump has driven through the United States cleaves us deeper all the time. It has been shown in innumerable studies and regression analyses that the main predictor of support for Trump is racial anxiety — far more than economic anxiety. That’s why Trump’s base remains rock-solid behind him even as the tax cut, in the first quarter, contributed to an 8 percent increase in corporate earnings but only a 1 percent increase in consumer spending — the lowest increase in five years — and even though coal jobs are disappearing faster than before, wages remain stuck and the promised return of manufacturing hasn’t happened.

ilduclo 06.02.2018 04:58 PM

Lost Roseanne episodes;

https://www.thedailybeast.com/found-...sodes?ref=home

S2 E3 FISH PEOPLE

In a delightful real-life crossover, Roseanne find herself guest-hosting an episode of InfoWars Action Alert QAnon News Hour. She knows only Alex Jones can help her get back on the trail of the real killers of Seth Rich. Roseanne has to move fast, and rely on her plucky, workin’ class wits when Alex Jones accidentally drinks fluoridated water, is caught under the path of a Deep State chemtrail, and mistakenly forgets to take his InfoWars MegaBlast TestestoSlam Super Vitamins. Jones and Roseanne form a fast friendship when she teaches him a valuable lesson about how Wal-Mart heavy duty tin foil is just as good as the name-brand stuff.

Skuj 06.02.2018 07:56 PM

This 20 page letter (which seems to have been leaked) from Team Trump to Team Mueller is.......remarkable.

ilduclo 06.03.2018 12:30 PM

I AM THE WORLD’S MOST FUCKABLE CONSERVATIVE WUNDERKIND AND I DEMAND YOUR RESPECT

BRITTANY VAN HORNE

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/...d-your-respect

Skuj 06.03.2018 04:56 PM

I thought this whole "Trump pardoning himself" was joke/fake news, but it is actually a thing, isn't it?

Giuliani will go down in history as an idiot. If only he had retired after being mayor.

Of course, nobody is guilty of anything though!! No collusion!!!

ilduclo 06.03.2018 05:46 PM

Trump nominated Ronald W. Mortensen, a fellow with the anti-immigrant hate group Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), for Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of Population, Refugees and Migration.

 


https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...aling-refugees

who is Mortensen?

https://maddogpac.com/blogs/spicy-fi...nald-mortensen

Bytor Peltor 06.03.2018 05:51 PM




Seeing how there isn’t much positivity shared in this thread, figured I would do my part and shed some light on the record setting low unemployment rate......it hit an 18 year low in May, coming in at 3.9%

UNDER 4%

No matter what set of numbers you choose to look at-study-dissect, 3.9.% matches April 2000 as the lowest unemployment rate since 1969.

ALMOST 50 YEARS

Pelosi Vomit: “Mays Job Report that shows strong employment numbers mean little to American Families hit with soaring cost under the Republican watch.”

DO WHAT???

In March 2017, Pelosi Vomit said, “The improving economy under Obama was due to his leadership and time in office......it was Obama’s economy.”

OK-SURE!

President Donald Trump had only been in office 30 something days.

Pelosi Vomit: “The firm foundation of growth created by the Obama Administration continues to deliver, but President Trump is taking dangerous steps that will hollow out our economy and weaken working families.”

SAY WHAT???

Black America Unemployment IS DOWN TO 5.9% and has NEVER BEEN THIS CLOSE to the overall unemployment rate of 3.9%. Usually, the Black America Unemployment rate is at least double that of the Overall Employment rate.

Truth is, President Donald’s Trumps Tax Cuts have disproportionally helped People of Color. So many times in the past have Republican and Democratic Administrations left out-forgotten the poor-People Of Color...... relegating them to a position needing a handout rather than a hand up!

President Donald Trump is taking this very seriously, keeping campaign promises made.

Democrats Are Scared
A) Pelosi Vomit is a Figurehead
B) Minority voting is changing (see Robert’s story above)

The DEMS know they will lose in 2018 and if things continue the way they are......

GUESS WHAT, ALL THE TAX CUTS HAVEN'T TAKEN EFFECT

......the DEMOCRATS will lose 2020 and end up the permanent minority party!

It’s going to be a great summer!!!

!@#$%! 06.03.2018 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Seeing how there isn’t much positivity shared in this thread

[..]

Pelosi Vomit


lmao—that’s positive huh?

anyway, low unemployment is great. it is however part of a larger trend, as you can appreciate in the graph:

 


^^ these are government figures from the last decade

the corporate tax cuts have actually been a stimulus to continue the trend though, that’s for sure. everyone knew this would be the result for the short term, so no big surprise there.

larry summers said last year the economy was on a sugar high and tax cuts would prolong it for a while, but what was necessary were structural changes to truly move us forward— “infrastructure, science, and human capital”.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...725_story.html

so it looks great right now, no question there, but let’s see where the business cycle moves from here and if the country actually gets the investment it needs.

Skuj 06.03.2018 07:13 PM

No no no!! Don't show the big picture!!! Look through a straw instead!!!

Skuj 06.03.2018 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Seeing how there isn’t much positivity shared in this thread, figured I would do my part and shed some light on the record setting low unemployment rate......it hit an 18 year low in May, coming in at 3.9%

UNDER 4%

No matter what set of numbers you choose to look at-study-dissect, 3.9.% matches April 2000 as the lowest unemployment rate since 1969.

ALMOST 50 YEARS

Pelosi Vomit: “Mays Job Report that shows strong employment numbers mean little to American Families hit with soaring cost under the Republican watch.”

DO WHAT???

In March 2017, Pelosi Vomit said, “The improving economy under Obama was due to his leadership and time in office......it was Obama’s economy.”

OK-SURE!

President Donald Trump had only been in office 30 something days.

Pelosi Vomit: “The firm foundation of growth created by the Obama Administration continues to deliver, but President Trump is taking dangerous steps that will hollow out our economy and weaken working families.”

SAY WHAT???

Black America Unemployment IS DOWN TO 5.9% and has NEVER BEEN THIS CLOSE to the overall unemployment rate of 3.9%. Usually, the Black America Unemployment rate is at least double that of the Overall Employment rate.

Truth is, President Donald’s Trumps Tax Cuts have disproportionally helped People of Color. So many times in the past have Republican and Democratic Administrations left out-forgotten the poor-People Of Color...... relegating them to a position needing a handout rather than a hand up!

President Donald Trump is taking this very seriously, keeping campaign promises made.

Democrats Are Scared
A) Pelosi Vomit is a Figurehead
B) Minority voting is changing (see Robert’s story above)

The DEMS know they will lose in 2018 and if things continue the way they are......

GUESS WHAT, ALL THE TAX CUTS HAVEN'T TAKEN EFFECT

......the DEMOCRATS will lose 2020 and end up the permanent minority party!

It’s going to be a great summer!!!



I can't wait to bump this in November. (But, I accept I may do a face-palm image instead.)

!@#$%! 06.03.2018 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
No no no!! Don't show the big picture!!! Look through a straw instead!!!

hahaha

“the nose causes the tail”

—>

“There was a man who sat each day looking out through a narrow vertical opening where a single board had been removed from a tall wooden fence. Each day a wild ass of the desert passed outside the fence and across the narrow opening—first the nose, then the head, the forelegs, the long brown back, the hindlegs, and lastly the tail. One day, the man leaped to his feet with the light of discovery in his eyes and he shouted for all who could hear him: “It is obvious! The nose causes the tail!”
― Frank Herbert, Heretics of Dune

...

anyway speaking of big picture, and investing in the future, china about to surpass the usa in science investment

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...1ee_story.html

and attracting people globally

e.g.


Like many ambitious young scientists, José Pastor-Pareja came to the United States to supercharge his career. At Yale University, he worked in cutting-edge laboratories, collaborated with experts in his field and published in prestigious journals.

But the allure of America soon began to wear off. The Spanish geneticist struggled to renew his visa and was even detained for two hours of questioning at a New York City airport after he returned from a trip abroad. In 2012, he made the surprising decision to leave his Ivy League research position and move to China.


...

china made him an offer paid him a massive bonus and is setting up his very own lab with machinery and a team of his choice.

but, you know, we’re giving shit to immigrants! and promoting coal mining.

ilduclo 06.04.2018 10:29 AM

so, Commander Asshat is still in rumble mode with Chinese.....as a result of that news, I SOLD all my Chinese ADRs just now. Locked in many, many

 

ilduclo 06.04.2018 10:32 AM

here's my PERSONAL banker boxing them up for shipment to Tiny Town
 

Skuj 06.04.2018 05:43 PM

Seriously guys, every step of the way Team Trump behaves like guilty people. Do innocent people, with nothing to hide, talk about pardoning themselves? Baffling.

tw2113 06.04.2018 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
Seriously guys, every step of the way Team Trump behaves like guilty people. Do innocent people, with nothing to hide, talk about pardoning themselves? Baffling.



I pardoned myself for farting the other day.

!@#$%! 06.04.2018 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
Take a look at the year: 2012! That happened under Obama!

yes becuz obama wrote every law and was the customs agent who stopped the guy

thanks obama!

therefore our science policy is now great #maga coal coal coal

:rolleyes:

!@#$%! 06.05.2018 11:32 AM

forgot to reply also to the trade & luxembourg business

why do we want to buy steel from luxembourg? because they have a comparative advantage in the steel business, and we want europe to buy, say, boeing airplanes.

of course right now they’re targetting motorcycles and whiskey instead.

but larry summers explains it much better of course

DONALD TRUMP’S TRADE POLICY VIOLATES EVERY RULE OF STRATEGY

summarizing, trump’s policy:
* lacks clear objectives
* unites adversaries and alienates allies
* uses self-damaging threats that lack leverage

“President Trump’s trade policies will raise the prices Americans pay for what they buy. They will reduce the competitiveness of the US economy. They will succeed where our traditional adversaries have failed in uniting much of the rest of the world in opposition to us. They will reduce our legitimacy and power by demonstrating our lack of competence. The sooner they are radically revised the better off the US and the rest of the world will be.”

_tunic_ 06.05.2018 12:07 PM

Forget about the trade policy please! We've got more important business to deal with now! Please Mr. Trump make them change their minds!!



 

Bytor Peltor 06.05.2018 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
you know it’s not a witch hunt, right? 17 indictments and 5 guilty pleas is not nothing

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-n...tion-one-year/

and yeah it would be up to the spineless congress to impeach or not


ZERO GUILTY PLEADS for colluding with the Russians or rigging an election!!!

************************************************** *************

For those of you who live outside this country and for the rest who are American citizens and have evidently forgotten what you should’ve learned in Jr. High, let’s look at how our government works.

President Donald Trump: “i’ve done no wrongdoing, but I have the power to pardon myself if I so choose.”

President Donald Trump‘s lawyers notified Robert Muller......under the constitution, there is no way a sitting President could obstruct any investigation.

WHY?

President Of The United States
Executive Branch
Justice Department
FBI


The Justice Department appointed Robert Muller to head up the investigation. Because any sitting President is “Boss” over the Executive Branch, the President can shut down Justice Department & FBI investigations. President Donald Trump could fire Robert Muller today and there is nothing illegal or impeachable for doing so. This is also true if the President chose to cut off funding to an investigation. The Boss has final say!

Soooo......what does our Government have in place to investigate a sitting President?

***Legislative Branch***

The legislative branch has the power and authority to appoint their own special counsel. Under The Constitution, the President has NO AUTHORITY over this special counsel. If any President attempted to stop or influence the Legislative investigation......that would be an impeachable offense!

NEWSFLASH: The United States legislature HAS NOT appointed a special prosecutor. The legislature isn’t investigating ANYTHING!!!

Typically, when the FBI has, ZERO-Nothing-NADA evidence against you, they’re only option is to try and find where you may have somehow obstructed justice...... but as I explained above, the United States Constitution clearly states that a President cannot obstruct any investigation under the legislative branch.

Class is dismissed!

!@#$%! 06.05.2018 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Class is dismissed!

fortunately one’s education does not cease after elementary school

and so we can hear out specialists and the better educated to look at what happens beyond simplistic arguments about “the constitution”.

like, people who know and understand that obstruction of justice is spelled out in the US code.

here’s one example:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ustice/561935/

here are some excerpts worth highlighting

But the obstruction statutes are a tricky business. By their terms, they generally do not prohibit specific acts alone. They prohibit those acts when taken “corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication.” They prohibit those acts when someone engages in them “willfully” and with specific intent to tamper with the justice system. They use words like “corruptly persuade.” The same exact act can be an obstruction of justice or not depending entirely on what the perpetrator of that act intends.

[...]

But here’s where we come to what I think is one significant flaw in the president’s legal theory. Major criminal investigations seldom do take place entirely within the executive branch. Criminal investigations take place in a complex interaction between the Justice Department and grand juries, which are instrumentalities of the judiciary, and they end up in court in criminal proceedings. A facially valid action taken in the service of managing the executive branch, if taken with specific intent to commit a crime in order to influence a judicial proceeding, can theoretically violate statutes designed to protect the judicial function.

[...]


The president takes an oath of office in which he promises to “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States” and he is obliged by the Constitution to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” The law professors Eric Posner and Daniel Hemel suggest a legal test in which “a president commits obstruction of justice when he significantly interferes with an investigation, prosecution, or other law enforcement action to advance narrowly personal, pecuniary, or partisan interests.”



so, basically, while it’s true that the president has broad authority over the executive branch, it does not follow that the president is above the law and can run the government like a mafia. there’s a high burden of proof on the prosecution no doubt, and we still have not heard what the results of the investigation are. so we don’t know. and since we don’t know, we can’t claim that we do.

h8kurdt 06.05.2018 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
ZERO GUILTY PLEADS for colluding with the Russians or rigging an election!!!

************************************************** *************

For those of you who live outside this country and for the rest who are American citizens and have evidently forgotten what you should’ve learned in Jr. High, let’s look at how our government works.

President Donald Trump: “i’ve done no wrongdoing, but I have the power to pardon myself if I so choose.”

President Donald Trump‘s lawyers notified Robert Muller......under the constitution, there is no way a sitting President could obstruct any investigation.

WHY?

President Of The United States
Executive Branch
Justice Department
FBI


The Justice Department appointed Robert Muller to head up the investigation. Because any sitting President is “Boss” over the Executive Branch, the President can shut down Justice Department & FBI investigations. President Donald Trump could fire Robert Muller today and there is nothing illegal or impeachable for doing so. This is also true if the President chose to cut off funding to an investigation. The Boss has final say!

Soooo......what does our Government have in place to investigate a sitting President?

***Legislative Branch***

The legislative branch has the power and authority to appoint their own special counsel. Under The Constitution, the President has NO AUTHORITY over this special counsel. If any President attempted to stop or influence the Legislative investigation......that would be an impeachable offense!

NEWSFLASH: The United States legislature HAS NOT appointed a special prosecutor. The legislature isn’t investigating ANYTHING!!!

Typically, when the FBI has, ZERO-Nothing-NADA evidence against you, they’re only option is to try and find where you may have somehow obstructed justice...... but as I explained above, the United States Constitution clearly states that a President cannot obstruct any investigation under the legislative branch.

Class is dismissed!


Sometimes I swear you're just trolling.

Skuj 06.05.2018 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
ZERO GUILTY PLEADS for colluding with the Russians or rigging an election!!!

************************************************** *************

For those of you who live outside this country and for the rest who are American citizens and have evidently forgotten what you should’ve learned in Jr. High, let’s look at how our government works.

President Donald Trump: “i’ve done no wrongdoing, but I have the power to pardon myself if I so choose.”

President Donald Trump‘s lawyers notified Robert Muller......under the constitution, there is no way a sitting President could obstruct any investigation.

WHY?

President Of The United States
Executive Branch
Justice Department
FBI


The Justice Department appointed Robert Muller to head up the investigation. Because any sitting President is “Boss” over the Executive Branch, the President can shut down Justice Department & FBI investigations. President Donald Trump could fire Robert Muller today and there is nothing illegal or impeachable for doing so. This is also true if the President chose to cut off funding to an investigation. The Boss has final say!

Soooo......what does our Government have in place to investigate a sitting President?

***Legislative Branch***

The legislative branch has the power and authority to appoint their own special counsel. Under The Constitution, the President has NO AUTHORITY over this special counsel. If any President attempted to stop or influence the Legislative investigation......that would be an impeachable offense!

NEWSFLASH: The United States legislature HAS NOT appointed a special prosecutor. The legislature isn’t investigating ANYTHING!!!

Typically, when the FBI has, ZERO-Nothing-NADA evidence against you, they’re only option is to try and find where you may have somehow obstructed justice...... but as I explained above, the United States Constitution clearly states that a President cannot obstruct any investigation under the legislative branch.

Class is dismissed!



Trump's tweets work.

Skuj 06.05.2018 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
fortunately one’s education does not cease after elementary school

.......

so, basically, while it’s true that the president has broad authority over the executive branch, it does not follow that the president is above the law and can run the government like a mafia. there’s a high burden of proof on the prosecution no doubt, and we still have not heard what the results of the investigation are. so we don’t know. and since we don’t know, we can’t claim that we do.



Thank you for restating this yet again. In this thread we will continue to go in circles.

!@#$%! 06.05.2018 09:00 PM

this one was in this morning’s wsj email. this is not a partisan post. i just enjoy looking at trends.

The Breakfast Briefing

The good news for home builders and house hunters is that lumber prices have sold off since hitting an all-time high in mid-May. The bad news: wood prices are still up 66% over the past year, adding thousands of dollars to the cost of each new house.

The historic run-up in lumber prices--attributable to a trade dispute with Canada, wildfires and limited rail capacity--comes as U.S. home builders are already struggling to meet demand amid shortages in buildable lots and labor.

Lumber futures at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange closed at $586.80 per 1,000 board feet on Monday, down 8.2% from the all-time high of $639 reached May 17 but still sky high in a market in which prices have only occasionally eclipsed $400 over the last three decades.

“We’ve never seen anything like this,” said Deb Maples, risk management consultant at futures brokerage INTL FCStone Financial Inc. “It’s been unprecedented.”

For a generation setting off to start families in the suburbs, pricier construction materials are another hurdle to homeownership, on top of rising borrowing costs and competition from institutional investors, who are gobbling up homes to turn into rentals in some of the country's hottest markets.

Lately there have been signs that the housing market is slowing as prices push beyond the reach of some buyers. Housing starts, purchases of newly built single-family homes and residential building permits, a sign of how much construction is in the pipeline, each declined in April, according to the Commerce Department.

Surging softwood prices aren’t entirely responsible, of course, but they offer a glimpse into how the Trump administration’s protectionist trade stance might ripple through the U.S. economy as tariffs are imposed on other raw materials, such as steel and aluminum.

The housing recovery was already pushing lumber prices higher last year when forest fires tore through western Canada, where loggers harvest about a third of the lumber consumed in the U.S. The blazes exacerbated shortages following wood-boring beetle infestations that wiped out millions of acres of North American timber.

Then, later in the year, the U.S. levied tariffs on Canadian lumber of around 20%. Without enough domestic lumber to meet demand, buyers have mostly had to pay up.

“Lumber shipments from Canada to the U.S. are higher than ever, but the price of lumber went up in excess of the duty,” Jean-Jacques Ruest, interim chief executive of Canadian National Railway Co., told investors at a conference last week. “So what they did is create an inflation and there was no impact in the trade because housing starts are strong.”

Bytor Peltor 06.06.2018 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Sometimes I swear you're just trolling.


I call it......TRUTHING!

Just me expressing my thoughts and opinions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
I can't wait to bump this in November. (But, I accept I may do a face-palm image instead.)


Skuj - if I’m mistaken about one of my predictions or thoughts about something, I’ll happily admit it......zero embarrassment here :)

Skuj 06.06.2018 04:15 PM

Well, nothing surprises me anymore. Trump may be POTUS for 8 fucking years.

ilduclo 06.06.2018 05:44 PM

Now let us say, and, indeed, why not, that everything you fear might happen starts to really happen. In an obviously rigged election, Democrats overwhelmingly win back the House and the Senate, they start impeachment proceedings, and they start to undo all the great and wonderful things that Donald Trump did. They restore the individual mandate and expand the catastrophe known as Obamacare. They halt construction on the Wall. They bring back DACA and targeted enforcement of immigration laws. It's a damn nightmare.

But then shit gets even worse. Rather than face impeachment and removal from office, as well as possible arrest, Donald Trump escapes with his family to Russia, where they are welcomed by Vladimir Putin, who you know is a great leader because Trump told you he is. Mike Pence hightails it to Israel. And, before you know it, Nancy motherfuckin' Pelosi is the Commander-in-Chief.

And you know what happens next. She bans all images of Donald Trump, arresting anyone who dares to support him. She fills her cabinet with blacks and Hispanics, lots of women, queers galore, even a transgender Secretary of Defense. She starts to outlaw any Christian church that doesn't preach love and inclusiveness but she lets the Muslims slide. She demands that everyone takes a knee during the National Anthem. She opens the borders and tells MS-13 they can cut any Trump-lover to tiny pieces. They like to use knives, you know, to make it last longer. And Bernie Sanders runs Congress, pushing Pelosi to turn the nation into a socialist hellscape, where the government decides who lives and who dies for the greater good.

And, finally, worst of all, the final straw, Nancy Pelosi comes after your guns. Oh, sure, the NRA tries to raise an army to fight back, but even AR-15s and small rocket launchers are no match for drones with Hellfire missiles.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/

Skuj 06.06.2018 07:26 PM

It will be Warren.

Pocahontas* will have her revenge.

(*It pained me to type what Trump freely spews. I feel dirty now.)

Skuj 06.06.2018 07:44 PM

PS: “Scott Pruitt is the gift that keeps on giving.”

The Soup Nazi 06.06.2018 11:28 PM

I'M-AN-OR-DI-NAR-Y-GUY...

 


...BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE!!!

G7 Summit Off To A Great Start As Trump Accuses Canada Of Burning Down The White House

Stay tuned for Friday, when Trump kicks off the summit by slapping extra tariffs on the European Union as payback for France bombing Pearl Harbor.

https://news.google.com/stories/CAAq...S&ceid=US%3Aen

The Soup Nazi 06.06.2018 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
Pocahontas* will have her revenge.


Pocahaunted will have their revenge.

 

Bytor Peltor 06.07.2018 02:36 AM

Robert Mueller has requested that witnesses turn in their private cellphones as he wants to search any encrypted messaging programs.

A request is not the same as a subpoena!

What would happen if any of these witnesses destroyed their private cell phone in the same manner as Hillary Clinton?

Is there a Two-Tier Justice System??

Is it possible Robert Mueller wants the private cellphones so evidence can be implanted?

I’m surprised no one here hasn't asked why President Donald Trump hasn’t overturned Executive Order 12333???

Could it be our President will use this Executive Order to??????

ilduclo 06.07.2018 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
PS: “Scott Pruitt is the gift that keeps on taking.”



FTFY

Skuj 06.07.2018 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Is it possible Robert Mueller wants the private cellphones so evidence can be implanted?



Dude, a lot of what you say baffles me, but this one really takes the cake.

Fox "News" has really got you.

ilduclo 06.07.2018 03:03 PM

implants are only important to Trump when.........

!@#$%! 06.08.2018 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
Larry Summers is (or was) one of the biggest hypers of Neoliberal dogma around, and his recent conversion isn't really convincing me. He's still a globalist who's still defending the globalist system.


globalization is unavoidable. it’s been in progress since our ancestors left africa. the only issue remaining is which values will preponderate in this planetary integration. and that’s an issue which requires global leadership. but gobal leadership is not accomplished by retrenching behind a medieval moat.

SAD!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
And raising tariffs on Luxembourg steel reduces their competitive advantage relative to domestic steel which helps rebuild the US steel industry.


and what’s so necessary about the US steel industry that requires the government to pick winners and losers in the market?

because right now manufacturing is suffering as a result of steel tariffs.

so we’re squelching manufacturers to favor raw material production.

in the name of....? what exactly?

self-sufficiency?

backwardness more like it.

Skuj 06.08.2018 06:37 PM

And while Trump hits his allies with all this, he ponders why Russia isn't a part of the G7(8). If this was any other time/POTUS, I'd be on the floor convulsing. But, it's Trump.

Skuj 06.08.2018 07:14 PM

A new charge against Manafort.

I would love the Trumpists in this thread to carefully read this, and then tell me (again) that the Mueller Investigation is going nowhere.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...-20180608.html


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