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SonicBebs 07.15.2008 02:29 PM

Another Rather Ripped thread
 
just listened to RR and you know what? I enjoyed it! Its actually pretty good. Lots of nice melodies and guitar tones. Pink Stream, Jams, Reena, Turquoise Boy, Rats loads of good tunes

I take it back, not bad at all

noisereductions 07.15.2008 02:51 PM

Never understood the hate. I thought it was great on first liste. Still do. It's Sonic Pop, no doubt; but so was DIRTY and so was GOO. Why not end the DGC years in the same fashion we began it? Maybe close out the major-label-sound Trilogy? See how it would sound after all these years?

Rob Instigator 07.15.2008 03:41 PM

listening to Dirty on headphones I am struck at how NOISY it is compared with how I felt about it when it came out.

Youth Against Fascism, especially, the noise interplay betwene the right channel and the left channel on top of kim;s bass, is fucking awesome.

Cantankerous 07.15.2008 03:46 PM

ffs

SHUT UP ABOUT RR.

habib, merge all this bullshit please

atsonicpark 07.15.2008 03:59 PM

rather ripped sucks :(

HECKLER SPRAY 07.15.2008 04:03 PM

Their weakest album, in my opinion. Not completly bad or unlistenable, but... well, I was really disappointed when it came out.

Rob Instigator 07.15.2008 04:04 PM

it was summer fun

ejst&ns is their weakest album by a loooong shot

HECKLER SPRAY 07.15.2008 04:05 PM

The first time I finished listening to it, I was like : "that's all ? Where is the noise ? Oh, shit..."

HECKLER SPRAY 07.15.2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
it was summer fun

ejst&ns is their weakest album by a loooong shot

Yeah, I don't like EJSTANS very much, but at least the guitars don't sound as bland as they do on RR...

Rob Instigator 07.15.2008 04:27 PM

but we can all agree that the single greatst sonic youth recording is Macbeth on the ciccone youth album right?

deflinus 07.15.2008 04:28 PM

i dont understand why people hate rather ripped. it could of been SO MUCH worse. and all of those songs are better than any song any of us will ever write..

Rob Instigator 07.15.2008 04:32 PM

I enjoy the fuck out of rather ripped. I woudl rather listen to rather ripped anyday than Murray street, which I like, but which brings me down and puts me in a foul depressed mood.

HECKLER SPRAY 07.15.2008 04:35 PM

I don't hate it, but compared to the rest of their discography, it sounds like it has been produced by Nigel Godrich... (I was about to say Rick Rubin, but it 's too inflated maybe.)

Derek 07.15.2008 05:42 PM

RR is nice.

noisereductions 07.15.2008 05:51 PM

"Macbeth" IS awesome...

radarmaker 07.15.2008 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek
RR is nice.


Yeas, but that's about as positive as it's possible to be about it.

Kuhb 07.15.2008 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
listening to Dirty on headphones I am struck at how NOISY it is compared with how I felt about it when it came out.

Youth Against Fascism, especially, the noise interplay betwene the right channel and the left channel on top of kim;s bass, is fucking awesome.


True true. Everything sounds so heavy on that album. I listened to Dirty and then went and listened to Daydream and it sounds like they were playing on toy guitars

viewtiful_alan 07.15.2008 10:31 PM

Rather Ripped is great.
I would say more but I feel like I'd waste finger energy... :/

acousticrock87 07.15.2008 10:51 PM

Who cares about RR. I wanna know why EJSTNS gets so much flak. This is an outrage.

I have half-a-mind to start a thread about that. But I won't because I don't really care that much.

viewtiful_alan 07.15.2008 10:59 PM

Jet set just... I don't know... it doesn't ever quite click.
No Lee song either... for shame.

Mostly Harmless 07.16.2008 01:05 AM

I think people give Rather Ripped so much shit because it's a Sonic Youth album, and once you get ear-orgasms from a band yr standards are irreversibly altered.
If Rather Ripped was the debut of some small, unheard of band, I think people would appreciate it a lot more.

Death & the Maiden 07.16.2008 01:08 AM

I still haven't bought Rather Ripped. When I listen to it on iTunes, it doesn't sound that bad. It's not awful.

viewtiful_alan 07.16.2008 01:08 AM

Yeah
It was the first sonic album I ever listened to/owned.
So I loved it.

Alex's Trip 07.16.2008 01:20 AM

I like it more than Dirty.

I never really liked Dirty a ton.

SonicBebs 07.16.2008 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
ffs

SHUT UP ABOUT RR.

habib, merge all this bullshit please


seriously, what did you expect? Its not like you were tricked into this thread is it?

SonicBebs 07.16.2008 03:06 AM

Pink Stream is so lush

_slavo_ 07.16.2008 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
ffs

SHUT UP ABOUT RR.

habib, merge all this bullshit please


Oh come on.
A little tolerance, eh?

greedrex 07.16.2008 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
it was summer fun

ejst&ns is their weakest album by a loooong shot


hey Rob, that's kindasurprising coming from you.
That's undoubtedly their most-Pavement releated LP (cover included) record....

greedrex 07.16.2008 03:27 AM

Cantank loves The Rolling Stones and hates Rather Ripped.
he.

dasx 07.16.2008 05:54 AM

To me Rather Ripped is one of the best albums the band has ever made. Pink Steam is in top5 of alltime SY-songs.

SonicBebs 07.16.2008 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dasx
Pink Steam is in top5 of alltime SY-songs.


i cant believe how it slipped by me before. I've never really noticed the song before but listening to it last night knocked me out. Beautiful guitar's
and The Neutral's wicked too

This Is Not Here 07.16.2008 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radarmaker
Yeas, but that's about as positive as it's possible to be about it.


No it isn't, I fucking adore Rather Ripped. Yes, its poppy, but people were probably saying that negatively about Goo and Dirty when they were released, and now they're indeispensible cult albums.
There are weak tracks, and Lee's is the weakest I've ever heard from him, but mostly its just sublime, and Pink Steam, Or, and particularly Eyeliner and Helen Lundburg I rate amongst the greatest SY tracks ever. Or is up there with JC in terms of the most moving. And Pink Steam, listening to the peice build so delicately and beautifully and for Thurston's vocals to break in - its soooo good. You guys are entitled to dislike RR, but I for one don't listen to SY just for 'noise', they're incredible songwriters, and Rather Ripped is an excellent showcase of this.

greedrex 07.16.2008 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dasx
To me Rather Ripped is one of the best albums the band has ever made. Pink Steam is in top5 of alltime SY-songs.

:eek: wowowowow come down here
RR is a good LP all things considered and that
but wow man





wow

noisereductions 07.16.2008 07:20 AM

The day the album came out, I bought it and pressed play. When "Reena" ended, I hit the back-button and listened to it again. I must've listened to "Reena" 10 times that day. So there, haters.

dasx 07.16.2008 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
:eek: wowowowow come down here
RR is a good LP all things considered and that
but wow man

wow


I think Rather Ripped and Sonic Nurse are almost as good as Evol, Sister and Daydream Nation.

All Sonic Youth albums are good and some of them are excellent.

flashlight69 07.16.2008 08:24 AM

This thread is about people who are definetley .... in terms of music
 
rather ripped is a great album.incinerate is one of the best songs i ever heard.the whole record is one of the best records i have ever heard probably rather ripped is one of the best rockīn roll records ever.there is no noise?of course why should there be noise! should they always to the same?they go new ways from record to record and thatīs great you always get something different!this is not pop! are you all completely dumm?britney spears is pop not sonic youth.thatīs geat music they are extraordinary aweswome !

i also love bad moon rising or sister or evol but way should they not try different things

greedrex 07.16.2008 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dasx

All Sonic Youth albums are good and some of them are excellent.


undoubtedly so
although i would say
"All Sy albums are excellent, but some are good
:p

greedrex 07.16.2008 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashlight69
probably rather ripped is one of the best rockīn roll records ever


ok
THE MAXIRANT starts here


GO!

HECKLER SPRAY 07.16.2008 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashlight69
.there is no noise?of course why should there be noise! should they always to the same?


Oh well, you know what I mean...
Sonic Youth would not be Sonic Youth if they played like any indie rock band... No dissonance, no alternative chord, no convoluted musical structure....
I don't want them to always do the same, but I like them because they don't play the same as most of the other rock bands.

SYRFox 07.16.2008 01:43 PM

Hmm I think Rather Ripped is good, not a masterpiece and not one of their best in my opinion (Sonic Nurse was a complete masterpiece in my opinion, and EJSTANS is fucking great), but still a very good album. I especially enjoy Rats and Jams Run Free; I think The Neutral is one of the weakest SY tracks though


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