Experimental Jet Set, Trash and No Star
 

I see that this album gets dissed quite a bit. But I've always loved the whole thing. I think it's a classic.

I dunno. I don't like it.

I like it, but it's really never been one of my favorites.

I like the message of Starfield Road.

Sweet Shine! I love that.

Why not? I don't understand what's bad about it. Not that you can convince me that it isn't good, of course. I like its laid-backness, for lack of a better word.

i bought and listened to it twice and didnt really like it, so i never really listen to it. i should probaly give it another couple spins... acually ill do that now.

I dunno. I pretty much hate a lot of what SY has done. The stuff I do like I find completely brilliant though.

I like Skink and Doctor's Orders and Tokyo Eye and Winner's Blues.

experimental jetset is really the only one i dont like (putting it in now)
dirty i used to not like but its really grown on me

the first ep is good sometimes, but only when im in the right mood

This album and A Thousand Leaves are both dear to me. I think A Thousand Leaves is a masterpiece...You know I was going to say that some of the ATL tracks were lacking, but they're not--I like that whole album as well.

Although some of Kim's free-association lyrics do tend to miss the mark at times.

I know, i really dig it too. Why does everyone hate it so much? It has a bunch of really good songs. Sometimes a few of them feel kinda like filler, but most of the time i'm just going along with it all excited and such. Butch Vig returned as producer but i've read that SY turned him down when he requested more takes on songs.
Dirty is probably the only album that makes me mad sometimes; the glossy production, the grungy skateboard vibe, and my ambivalence towards Purr. But i'll admit there are some cool tracks on it though. (on the strip, JC...)
Um, I like Goo. I love the Pettibon cover. But most of the songs kinda feel a bit shallower than youth's other releases. Major label jump I suppose.

Yes, I love On the Strip and JC. Also Theresa's Sound World.

I like Theresa once it gets going but i usually skip it unconciously because i find the guitar sounds a bit like that metallica song. The song is pretty good though, Theresa's Sound World that is.

I like it. I prefer NYC Ghosts & Flowers, though, which seems to often get coupled with it.

I've always liked it. Sure it's not Sister or even Dirty, but still. It's Sonic Youth. I love Sonic Youth! Doctor's Orders!

Actually, I think Sister has some totally brilliant songs (Schizophrenia, Cotton Crown) but is not as consistent as Evol. I also think Jet Set is more consistent than Sister. The whole "We're Ciccone" thing at the end tends to ruin it for me.

Master-Dik is killer.

Cotton Crown is a fucking beautiful song. Sometimes i wish that Schizophrenia was longer. I love the instrumental part, on both songs naturally.

Yes, I believe those songs capture that transcendent spirit which Sonic Youth uniquely expresses.

I think this was the second Sonic Youth album I bought-- Bad Moon Rising being the first. I like it just as much as any other record of theirs, but I can see why some people weren't digging it as much everything else.

Jet Set Cards
 

I also like the exchangeable cards in the jewel case...Sometimes I use the green card with Kim and the yellow star at the end of her guitar neck.

Master-Dik isn't part of the original LP. It is a CD Bonus Track.

Ehm, jet set... I dunno, it's seems to carry a more stale atmosphere than most other things sy's done. Kinda like they didn't really want to make an album when they made jet set. But it has it's moments, it's just from a rough spot.

I don't know--I think maybe people are mistaking the lack of typical Sonic youth "intensity" for apathy, when really it was something else entirely. I sense a very definite atmosphere and feeling from the record.

It's good to know that Master-Dik wasn't part of the original Sister record...it should never have even been included on the CD...It belongs on the Ciccone record.

i love ejt & ns it is a great album and is different to everything sy have done

it's something i might pop in tonight.

Its seems to be that people who diss EJSTNS dislike the fact that its easy to listen to, just like "Dirty" is easy to listen to. Maybe they think the fact that its easy to listen to then thier other albums people have issues with it. I really don't know. Its a little more laid back, even a bit bluesy. I love the album still.

I agree maybe it is some sort of indie cred thing, both albums are great, i would only bag them if i thought i was writing way better music than them and that aint gonna happen.....

Absolutely man. It's really a unique, odd, intense album. It's ranked low on my list of favorite Sonic Youth records, but that's just cause I have to be in the right mood to listen to it. When it clicks it clicks and sounds like some of their best shit. I actually think it was one of my favorites for a long long time, back before I had all their records. I still like it better than Washing Machine, which I really really need to be in the mood to listen to. EJST+NS has very interesting Lee guitar parts, something I don't think gets enough recognition. I have no idea why some people think its like their peak of commercial recording. What because Butch Vig produced it? Because Bull in the Heather got some play? Don't get it.

Experimental Jet Set, Trash and No Star is great!.I don't know how people don't like it, I like it better than Dirty.

haven´t listened to EJSTNS in a long time

It has some really nice tunes on it but it´s not a perfect album as a whole, in my opinion.
not in my sy top ten

awww, i love it. to me Dirty and Goo was their mainstream/more commercial stuff and Experimental Jet Set Trash and No Star is them taking the piss out of themselves for doing that and the whole commercial mainstream industry as a whole. its like them going "okay we went comerical, now lets take the laugh at ourselves"
plus, im screamingskull, so you know i love that album anyway.

Jet Set to me is a transition album. It's got its fair share of good songs (especially the first 5 IIRC) but it seems direction-less. It sometimes feels like leftover songs...like Radiohead's "Amnesiac".
I do, however, like it better than NYCG&F.

I've always loved this album. Finding it on cassette in my sister's room all these years ago is the reason I love Sonic Youth to this day. Okay, so there's no Lee songs, but it has some of the best Kim songs.

I'm with you 100% It's a strong album.

i fuckin love EJSTANS, its the one record i used to get my best mate onto Sonic Youth, its a classic album, actually gives me an idea for a signature.... starfield rd? sweet shine? so many great tunes on it why do people have a problem with it?

love that album to bits.

I didn't know ejst&ns until last summer, when a friend of mine introduced it to me....and I was enjoying it that much, that I went to a record store the next day and bought it, because I liked it that much (hasn't changed yet)

By the way I started smoking again this evening, listening to the album

The reason I rank EJSTNS so low on SY's albums is because it is very inconsistent. I end up skipping about half of the tracks. The first 4 tracks are great... but it really sags in the middle. Not to mention that Thurston's lyrics are pretty awful. Kim's songs, for the most part, are really good. But a lot of them sound the same. Also, there are no Lee tracks on the album to balance everything out. Screaming Skull is one of the worst SY tracks ever. Waist and In the Mind of the Bourgeois Reader are both really lame. Tokyo Eye is repetitive and boring. I think Winner's Blues, Bull in the Heather, Starfield Road, and Sweet Shine are all great tracks, but the rest of the albums just isn't very good. I'm also not a big fan of the production... they are trying too hard to sound noisy and I don't like all of the digital effects they use.