Despair by Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
 

Anyone heard this album? If you have wtf seriously WTF!?! It's just noise. I've read somewhere it's meant to be played backwards, if this is true how? Inform me in one what you think.

...that Mars Volta suck and that OR-L is one of the most pretentious assholes in recent history.

But ATDI are great :D

:eek: I have to neg rep you for that.





jk. :p

:rolleyes: Didn't see that coming.

I haven't heard it but it sounds interesting.

His other albums are good but this one is just one noise through the whole thing! :confused:

I haven't been able to track this one down thru stores or online yet. Minor Cuts and Scrapes...was just manipulated field recordings mostly...yeah, noise.

I'm sure this noise has been sufficiently pro-tool polished into pointlessness.

Omar Rodriguez-Lopez certainly despairs me

At the Drive-In
 

If ATDI were ever great it must have been temporariliy. They were great on Jools tho. Granted, they're great for raising awareness about the Female homicides in Ciudad Juárez, Mexico.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_...ad_Ju%C3%A1rez
http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.p...0122006&lang=e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08qk_pMJFak (One Armed Scissor live on Later with Jools Holland)

And The Mars Volta sounded amazing opening for RHCP in Antwerp Sports Palace in 2003.

my two of cents

I don't know If it's worse to be there for RCHP or Mars Volta

i don't care for him anymore, but in/casino/out is still one of the best albums ever. seriously.

All of the posters on this board whom assert themselves over anyone else's art or any other person are just lost, honestly.

Detach yourself from it, don't persistently act the way you do and maybe the other side of the fence would respect your opinion, which is never fact, simply what you can perceive as reality, for you and I are human.

The Mars Volta are certainly art, bad or good, who's to say? You deem yourself worthy? You're truly deluding reality, if so.

I've never listened to solo Omar, a friend of mine who's a large Volta fan doesn't enjoy those, and Omar openly states he expects no one to enjoy his solo albums.... I've no personal experience to give any of my own insight to particularly, and truly contribute to the topic intended by the thread creater YAF....

Sonic Youth's entire existence is valid. Music Theory gives us knowledge that its about the expression itself, so whether its ZeroPumpkins treating pretension which is a word I implore all of you to consider and get down to its roots. Pretension is in perception, a lot of pretension is truly miscommunicated ideas, or misinterpreted. How the hell is a band who acts like "assholes" in their format, pretension , that's an open challenge , and that is a valid way to make art. Sonic Youth, have done and do it. When I think of them as human beings, I just can't help but smile at how sweet they all are..... and how sweet even people my sub-conscious tells me I should despise are. The more I realize that, the greater my sub-conscious operates that way.

I hope AtSonicPark, posters along with him in the same boat so to speak(are you solely in a boat either? NO. I don't know you like that), just to generalize because I've very little time and in letting you know I am no longer generalizing.

Harkening back to my regular boardie, posting days, I know I was an asshole, half of it was how others perceived me, half of it myself. Ultimately people come here for a positive experience, and you can give it to them by being an asshole, but the way to win them over is through love. Some of you know and do this as well.

I hope I can somehow leave an imprint in how you analyze art, and I'm not saying I know any of you personally, you really don't know me either.

If I'm going to post here though, I want it to be of relevance and thats whu I've revisited though it should be awhile before I return, and hit back on anything. I might not ever read any of your responses, I can't say.

Covering vain ground to close out, I am not obsessed with the Mars Volta, however I do love them.... I also love music like Can, Thee Silver Mt Zion......, The Fall, Kayo Dot, Weezer, System of a Down, the band I've no need to mention, Tool, Television, Brian Eno, David Bowie, Stravinsky. And I feel as though all of this music is interconnected whether or not you want it to be.

Its hilarious that everyone hates Animal Collective as well, the most positive aspect of that band for me is their commentary on social life in america, and way in which we absorb art, treat eachother. How they've just done it naturally according to their life points is made laughable by the pretension accusations, what have you. I do agree bands should NOT price their tickets like that ever, but the only way to change that is not to hark on people who do but if you play music to continue to do what you do the way you go about it. I love Animal Collective and I completely agree on these price ticket discussions from one of those threads, thats bullshit, Fugazi started something in the mass communication of punk ethics, that simply cannot be dropped. They're not just punk rock, they're human and they enhance the art.

Take care, fuck Up, fall apart, and rebuild yourself.
Don't waste too much time on this message board, or do it because who is to say that you're wasting time? In my case, I grew less when I had. Personal perception.

that guy is such a twat

how many times do i have to fucking say it? mars volta sucks and omar sucks. geez, people. take a fucking hint

i didn't understand anything you typed until i looked down and saw that you mentioned fugazi. then, out of the great blue sky with one cloud, i understood everything.

Way too long, didn't read.

The irony. The self-righteousness.

When I create my own art, it'll be valid.

The point is I've been a douche bag. But most of the people who delude themselves into believing whatever they do when they assert someone else's worthlessness, pretension , what have you on this message board... its damn amusing...

Simply. Those who have no patience to read me either have valid reason or are lost cunts, who I can't worry about with "preaching", which very much so anti my entire message. It was an impromptu log of sorts, and I don't care.

I did return, saw responses, nothing surprising. Sadly. Art is in a bad state when those who survey it are that which I have witnessed today, but to cite Thurston Moore....... you're not a duck... you're HUMAN! and so am I.

Goodbye SY Board, Goodbye dedicated lovelies and disillusioned old-me's. The world is a large grey area, not just this, communicating generalizations for perceptions sake.

Does anyone wonder why it is the band doesn't participate on this message board like the old one?

Can you say, ashamed ? I hope they're baffled, I know I'd be temporarily baffled by this message board if I were within their band and with the historical context that Sonic Youth has existed. They put out a message that echoes opposition to certain attitudes carried within the mass everyday SY boardie.

At the same time, the band are spiritually radical motherfuckers who can just live on, as well as express it through their own art..... and that's all I need to do.

I think suchfriendsaredangerous has a brother.

i dont understand why people are dissing this album for being NOISE dont people here like noise? is it because its the guy from the mars volta? it just seems like a double standard

EDDIE EDIT NEW EDITION: WOW AM I HALF ASLEEP!?!?!??! OR WHAT: I'd rather not be complacent like you ZeroPumpkins and I've appreciated past sentiments of yours, but frankly that frame of mind AINT getting you NOWHERE.

So, have you guys reached an agreement yet? Shit or hit?

You are never going anywhere.

In a different context than Karen Carpenter, and yet you will; I hope.

Is the person in your avatar Nobunny?

Yes, it is because it's the guy from the Mars Volta. He usually makes semi-improv Latin Jazz albums now with the occasional Mars Volta and 'experimental' album. Let's see what everyone says when his album with Zach Hill comes out...I'm actually surprised there hasn't been any mention of his album with Lydia Lunch or his album with Damo Suzuki.

*shrug*

FUCK YEASHHHH

He's working with Damo? Zach? and Lydia?

Way cool, way for everyone to show how much of tools they're being?
Share my sentiments Sy37? I'm not trying to cast judgment, I'm trying to aid anyone who acts like an asshole, like I've been in the past in their treatment, thus appreciation of ART.

It doesn't matter if he works with those people, but I love Damo, I love Zach and I've got some appreciation for Lydia so maybe it'll extend them into the world they truly belong.

The Zach Hill release is forthcoming...allegedly.
"In addition a collaboration with Zach Hill of the band Hella has also been completed. Rodriguez-Lopez has stated that the album will be "heavier" and "mostly guitars". This LP was recorded some 2 years ago and Willie Anderson's Myspace page says there will be an early 2009 release for this record"

The Lydia Lunch collabo isn't great...or really even good. I've only listened to it twice and it's an EP


The Damo release is Please Heat This Eventually from Se Dice Bisonte... with Damo doing vocals

A friend of mine never got into Can as a result of that omar / damo collab if its not new.......allegedly I hope the Zach Hill Hella Omar Machine happens.

Going back to art analysis, and Sonic Youth board being my place of location.

I maintain!
that
cha AY os is the fu
ture and bey
ond it
is free
dom.......
con
fus
ion is
next
and
next
after
that
is
the
truth
you've go=
tto cultivate what
you need
to need (or what your perception tells you you need... however)

STICK YOUR FINGERS IN YOUR MOUTH SQUEEZE YOUR TONGUE AND WRENCH IT OUT!
FROM ITS UGLY FUCKING CANCER ITS UGLY FUCKING CANCER ROOT ^ the only way to grow, shut the fuck up , think about what you're saying and come back to chaos being the future , chaos in yourself as well as other people, I want to meet this band again someday, hopefully.

If not I've always got "the Empty Page "(direct Zep) to know Thurston feels exactly the same way about his heroes and his "loves', which were a love of a sort, of course ; PATTI SMITH- I love her, as well.

"Tell nothing but the truth" but question what is truth? Is your truth the truth?

Also realize, that this means what your mind tells you when you're not being lazy and being honest with yourself that you do have a perception, and almost a duty to express that perception, and so you should TELL it. Even if its illogical hate. Which should make a person reference back to other sentiments, I'd hope........

Don't treat my getting in the mind of Confusion as my own acceptance of my ideas as THE songs SOLE intent; In fact I think CONFUSION IS SEX also signifies the idea that confusion will only bring about the intimacy which exists in sex when the "end of the world" comes about and information is doubling every other second , or whatever , the precision isn't the point.

The information is crucial though, confusion doesn't have to lead to death only, the end of the world isn't simply the end, and anarchy in a means that hasn't occurred in the span of the humanity we've come to know is all apart of what is envisioned in this song / concept I imagine.

I think its still true. (Applicable, timeless as well).

So I was watching Futurama today, and it was awesome. That was one funny show.

What...

Who knows.

WHORESCORPE dude i'm gonna neg rep yr ass

WHOREOHSCOPE, did your mother ground you for not eating your greens?

If she did then well done to her, you're hilarious.

neg rep him!
 

Do so already! Looks like he takes himself and our posts way too serious.

RHCP / Mars Volta concert
 

I was there for our dad. He had 5 tickets for the show. He was quite a fan at the time. And it was worth being there. Best mexican waves ever. And Frusciante did a great solo cover of "See Emily Play" (Pink Floyd)