EVOL appreciation thread
 

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I don't really like using fractions of numbers. Kind of defeats the purpose of giving a score out of ten. You may as well do it out of 100, just remove the decimal.

You missed 'Bubblegum' out or was that on purpose because it's only on the rerelease or somthing.

And you missed 'Marilyn Moore'.


I think this is probably my second favourite Sonic Youth album.

Tom Violence 9.5
Shadow of a Doubt 10
Star Power 9
In the Kingdom #19 9
Green Light 9
Death to our Friends 8
Secret Girl 9
Marilyn Moore 8
Expressway to yr Skull 9
Bubble Gum 7


I might change my mind on this or do it out of 100. EDIT thats more accurate i think

Tom Violence - 8.5
Shadow of a Doubt - 10
Star Power - 9.0
In The Kindom #19 - 8.0
Green Light - 8.5
Death To Our Friends - 8.0
Secret Girl - 9.0
Marilyn Moore - 8.0
Expressway To Yr Skull - 9.0
Bubblegum - 7.5

Tom Violence - 9
Shadow of a Doubt - 9
Star Power - 8
In The Kindom #19 - 7.5 (I couldn't give it a 7, but I have to be in the right mood to actually enjoy it)
Green Light - 10
Death To Our Friends - 10
Secret Girl - 9
Marilyn Moore - 10
Expressway To Yr Skull - 10
Bubblegum - Should have been kept off the CD release.

Ah, your favourite is shadow of a doubt too. I love that song.

Tom Violence 9.645892541123
Shadow of a Doubt 9.2
Star Power 9.987
In the Kingdom #19 9.5
Green Light 9.1
Death to our Friends 10.0
Secret Girl 9.6
Expressway to yr Skull 17,475.5699999 recurring

I kinda agree with you kinda don't.


When I was in college I went through a period of coming home absolutely knackered, so I would always lie on my bed and listen to either this album or washing machine. As I lay there I would drift off into a kind of half sleep, very much helped by the outro of Expressway and then bubblegum would suddenly burst in and I would be shocked awake. That happened so many times, it's a great album to fall alseep to.

yeah, Expressway is like SY's second best song. Top 10 song.

Tom Violence - 9
Shadow of a Doubt -9
Star Power - 10 (my favorite sy song ever)
In The Kindom #19 - 9
Green Light -10
Death To Our Friends -10
Secret Girl -8.5
Marilyn Moore - 10
Expressway To Yr Skull -10
Bubblegum -9

Tom Violence - 8.0
Shadow of a Doubt - 9.5
Star Power - 9.0
In The Kindom #19 - 9.5
Green Light - 9.0
Death To Our Friends - 10
Secret Girl - 10
Marilyn Moore - 8.0
Expressway To Yr Skull - 9.5
Bubblegum - 8.0

I love hearing Death to Our Friends and Secret Girl back to back.

Yeah, that happens to me and that's one of the reasons I hate the song. It just ruins the album as a whole, but you can always just stop your CD player before it comes on.

Tom Violence - 8.7
Shadow of a Doubt - 7.9
Star Power - 10 (love it)
In The Kindom #19 - 9.0
Green Light - 8.0
Death To Our Friends - 9.1
Secret Girl - 8.3
Marilyn Moore - 8.0
Expressway To Yr Skull - 9.5
Bubblegum - 7.7

Overall, I EVOL is a kick ass album and I love it!

tom violence - 7
shadow of a doubt - 7
starpower - 9
in the kingdom #19 - 7
green light - 8
death to our friends - 10
secret girl - 9
marilyn moore - 8
expwy - 10
bubblegum - 9

8.4/10 average score or 84/100 = B

I rate out of 20.
tom violence - 18
shadow of a doubt - 19
starpower - 17
in the kingdom #19 - 20
green light - 20
death to our friends - 17
secret girl - 17
marilyn moore - 16
expwy - 20
bubblegum - 16

Maybe five or six months ago, my computer was busted, so to keep myself alive at night while I finished my homework, I'd listen to this. Save for a few, this has the best sequencing. Starpower fades into In The Kingdom, which is pure genius, going from that red love song to a pitch black horror movie. But then! Green Light. I always fell asleep right after that- something about T's vocals. It's another hazy love song. I'd give it an 88/100. I never cared for Tom Violence or Marilyn Moore. I programmed my player to skip them. I like the lyrics, but eh.

Marilyn Moore plays like a hangover, which is really great for music. I think the song was written by Lydia Lunch too, which explains it. Tom Violence is on of the songs that make SY an ideal band for older teens, mainly because of the lyrics of songs like that and Green Light.

Tom Fucking Violence is a great opener......the album is in my top 3 SY albums or whatever.

Tom Violence 9.0
Shadow of a Doubt 10
Star Power 9.87
In the Kingdom #19 9.89
Green Light 8
Death to our Friends 8
Secret Girl 8.01
Marilyn Moore 9
Expressway to yr Skull 9
Bubble Gum 7.666

One of my alltime favorite albums.

IMHO the best fucking Sonic Youth album ever recorded. period.

Tom Violence 9.8
Shadow of a Doubt 10.0
Star Power 9.5
In the Kingdom #19 9.0
Green Light 9.9
Death to our Friends 10.0
Marylin Moore 8.3
Secret Girl 10.0
Expressway to yr Skull 9.0

tom violence 10
shadow of a doubt 10
star power 10
in the kingdom #19 10
green light 10
death to our friends 9.9
secret girl 10
marylin moore 10 (im in love with the second part!)
expressway - all time fav sy song.
bubblegum 9.99

evol in general :

one of the bast sy records

sy on their way to peak (hehe). great album. each songs deserves 9.8 at least. espec. shadow of the doubt, in the kingdom #19, green light, death to our friends and express way to yr. skull.

What's everybody's problem with Bubblegum? Kim Fowley oughta bust yr heads!

One of my favorite albums as well...

4th best

I think Bubblegum is a decent song but it ruins the mood. The vinyl is way better then the cd because
1. It sounds better
2. Expressway To Yr. Skull loops at the end and in order to make it stop you have to physically remove it

Out of their 80's it's DDN > EVOL > CIS > Sister >>> BMR

BMR is kinda charming, but it's really obnoxious, and obnoxious being a bad thing for SY is really bad because SY is probably at their best when they're obnoxious (see Rain King).

CIS is their most charming record, not that it's the best. They couldn't quite articulate what they would in the EVOL - DDN but the songs are just amazing, it's all noisy pop, and atleasy 7/9 songs on CIS are > 9.1 but overall it's a 10.0 record like EVOL or DDN

Sister is definetly around 9.5 but it doesn't reach the perfectiong of the other albums, but it does well enough to be an outstanding album, one of the best albums of the 80's still; kind of like a worse Smiths record.

and to say something I didn't about EVOL already Expressway is completely amazing because of how it relieves you after a few tense dark songs (bar the first 5 songs).

btw I wonder what average people find more inaccessible, original Sonic Youth EP or BMR.

asim- bmr is more inaccessible. the ep is really easy to sit down with. the drums are funky, and the production's more clear. bmr is something i have to be in the mood to listen to.

I just listened to BMR and am almost thru EVOL.

God I love these fucking records!

Expressway...

It's almost painful to listen to it's so great...

I want the vinyl

i pulled in a bargin!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=220004939 659

The vinyl is where it's at, but I still like Bubblegum gotdammit!

Anyone a fan of "Outrageous" where Bubblegum originates from?

aha! maybe my favourite album ever!

Tom Violence - 10 (best song on the album)
Shadow of a Doubt - 10
Starpower - 9.9
In the Kingdom #19 - 8.5
Green Light - 8
Death to our Friends - 9
Secret Girl - 9.5
Marilyn Moore - 9
Expressway to Yr Skull - 10
Bubblegum - 6 (it's okay, but definately doesnt fit the album and shouldn't be included)

Starpower probably should be a ten'er also....

Listening to EVOL for the first time was one of the most magical listening-to-an-album-for-the-first-time experiences ever. I felt immediately connected to it.

How would, say, 8.5 out of 10 be more accurate than 85 out of a 100???

I didn't say it would be more accurate, that was referring to somthing else. I changed my scores.

kim fowley is jesus.
no, wait. he's satan. satan is way cooler than jesus.

i don't understand what everyone has against bubblegum.

it's a lock-in groove at the end. how annoying. i have an L7 single that does that as well.
you don't actually have to pull the arm up, you can just press the stop button.

When I was ripping all my CDs to digital (Yeah yeah I know, shut up) I left Bubblegum off the album because I felt it ruined the flow so bad.

i think it's great, it's like a little surprise at the end of expwy. in fact, i like their version much better than the kim fowley version.