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noisereductions 12.03.2008 09:40 AM

NR Essentials #8: John Coltrane - My Favorite Things
 

 


John Coltrane
My Favorite Things
1960, Atlantic Records

Answer: Reason you love jazz. Question: What is this record?

This might be the only NR Essential that is so heavily influenced by a single track. Though of course the entire record (which is only 4 tracks) is incredible, the truth is that in my opinion the opening/title track is one of the finest examples of everything perfect about music. Coltrane took a jolly melody from (shudder) The Sound of (f'ing) Music and then managed to do EVERYTHING he could think of to it. For fourteen glorious minutes he (and his band) unselfishly, wisely, beautifully explore every tangenial variation on the theme until it is all but used up and then... on to the next standard.

And that's what's amazing about the record. These are four standards. It seems almost nuts that songs we already know being performed by instruments we already know should open any new doors. But it's this sort of exploration beyond the limits that our ears had THOUGHT existed that makes Coltrane the wise teacher that he was.

This is a record I have (and do) listen to a lot. A lot! It's a record that grows more beautiful with each listen, and maybe more importantly: it seems to teach me - or make me realize - something new about music (or even sound and how it effects us) each time I listen to it. For this is NOT background/cocktail/dinner jazz. This is pure enlightenment, and you need to pay close attention to it. NOW.


EDIT: If anyone plans on picking this up, beware of the Live album that bares the same title on its sleeve. The live disc I mention collections 6 tracks, and though it may be good, it's not the record I'm praising here.

atsonicpark 12.03.2008 09:43 AM

I really like Coltrane, never heard this album though. Sounds interesting.

lechaoscestmoi 12.03.2008 09:45 AM

just listened to this yesterday, nice concidence. and yes, it's amazing.

noisereductions 12.03.2008 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I really like Coltrane, never heard this album though. Sounds interesting.


Oh man. I discovered Coltrane because my wife wanted me to hunt down a song she heard on the Cosby show years ago. Turned out to be Trane's take on Ellington's "In A Sentimental Mood" which melted me when I finally found it/heard it. SO then I grabbed this record because it just happened to be around one day. Total chance thing, like "well I want to hear ANY Coltrane" and so quickly I realized that he's probably my favorite jazz band leader.

Derek 12.03.2008 10:21 AM

what was that one he did that everyone knows? A Love Supreme? I like that one.

only other one I've heard is Blue Train.

noisereductions 12.03.2008 10:36 AM

Yeah, A LOVE SUPREME is good. He has a stack of really great albums, to be honest.

fugazifan 12.03.2008 01:03 PM

i agree with you. its a great album. but what do you have against the sound of music?
i admit, its not as good as marry poppins, but i would most certainly not shudder when i think of it.
back to coltrane-the ascention is amazing as well
so is everything else of his that i heard. and his live in seattle album is great (props to melly for recomending it)

noisereductions 12.03.2008 01:23 PM

fugazifan... I can't really explain this BUT, as much as I love music, and as much as I love films, I generally don't like Musicals. There may be an exception here or there, but as far as The Sound Of Music goes, it's just not my cupotea. I just get pretty bored with it. (Though I'd probably enjoy the sndtrk independent of the film).

Derek 11.04.2009 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek
what was that one he did that everyone knows? A Love Supreme? I like that one.

only other one I've heard is Blue Train.

Wow, times have changed. I've heard tons of Coltrane's stuff now and he is probably my favourite musician from the jazz realm alongside Ornette and Elvin Jones (who played with Coltrane!). 'Meditations' is seriously a mind-blowing record. I might make it the next DEREK ESSENTIAL hahaha.

noisereductions 11.04.2009 01:01 PM

Cotrane is most likely my favorite jazz musician as well.

Derek 11.04.2009 01:04 PM

Elvin Jones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8YRrUg1E8s Oh my!

Hey NR, what do you think about OM? A lot of people dislike it but I think it's quite interesting and creative.

noisereductions 11.04.2009 01:08 PM

Derek, I actually don't have it. I should track it down, eh?

Rob Instigator 11.04.2009 01:09 PM

trane is great.

sax supreme.

all his shit is amazing. his work with Miles Davis is on par with the best of anything ever.

Glice 11.04.2009 01:17 PM

I fucking love the sound of music.

Coltrane is one of those players who's clearly astonishing, but it's been about a year since I've actually enjoyed a record. You know, one of those things where the fact of it being great almost stops you from actually loving the record.

Derek 11.04.2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
Derek, I actually don't have it. I should track it down, eh?

Haha yeah! Two tracks. It has buddhist text chants at the beginning and end of them and the most insane avant-garde jazz in the middle of it.

noisereductions 11.04.2009 01:37 PM

yeah I was reading about it. Hadn't even heard of this one until you mentioned it. He has an amazingly varied discography, which is always fun and rewarding.

This Is Not Here 11.04.2009 02:41 PM

The first jazz record I ever owned. Fact. Still love it to this day. Really special.

The Earl Of Slander 11.04.2009 04:50 PM

It's amazing. The title track is indeed a candidate for Coltrane's crowning achievement. However, due to their consistency, I slightly prefer John Coltrane Plays and Crescent in the ultimate Coltrane face off thing. Sun Ship, Ascension, Love Supreme and both versions of Meditations are also stunning, along with his Miles Davis stuff and, hell, pretty much EVERYTHING ELSE! The man is a musical god, and yeah, my second favourite jazz band leader, after Davis. I know those two are a massively cliched choice, but fuck it, it's a cliche for a reason!

Toxa 11.04.2009 06:19 PM

one of my favourite records EVER.

el duderino 11.04.2009 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Earl Of Slander
It's amazing. The title track is indeed a candidate for Coltrane's crowning achievement. However, due to their consistency, I slightly prefer John Coltrane Plays and Crescent in the ultimate Coltrane face off thing. Sun Ship, Ascension, Love Supreme and both versions of Meditations are also stunning, along with his Miles Davis stuff and, hell, pretty much EVERYTHING ELSE! The man is a musical god, and yeah, my second favourite jazz band leader, after Davis. I know those two are a massively cliched choice, but fuck it, it's a cliche for a reason!


In full agreeance. Crescent rocks the party


My Favourite Things was kinda Coltrane's anthem over the years - he kept on developing it musically on the stage right up until his death. By 66-67 it was almost unrecognizable - check out the Olatunji concert version for comparison. Massive tune.

noisereductions 11.04.2009 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Earl Of Slander
It's amazing. The title track is indeed a candidate for Coltrane's crowning achievement. However, due to their consistency, I slightly prefer John Coltrane Plays and Crescent in the ultimate Coltrane face off thing. Sun Ship, Ascension, Love Supreme and both versions of Meditations are also stunning, along with his Miles Davis stuff and, hell, pretty much EVERYTHING ELSE! The man is a musical god, and yeah, my second favourite jazz band leader, after Davis. I know those two are a massively cliched choice, but fuck it, it's a cliche for a reason!


who cares about cliches. It's probably a cliche that I'm saying it's the best jazz track recorded. But it fucking is.

RanaldoNecro 11.04.2009 11:16 PM

stunning record. way better than Love Supreme. I have listened to this driving and usually get giddy, get excited. Seek this out NOW.

Sonic Youth Gossip 11.04.2009 11:20 PM

coltrane has like 10 AMAZING albums and I can imagine his others are high quality too. him and davis probably had the most consistant output in jazz music up to the 70's

Skuj 11.05.2009 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I really like Coltrane, never heard this album though. Sounds interesting.


It was his signature piece. In his "difficult years", this thing stretched to about 60mins. 4cd Live In Japan.....get that muthafucka, Coltrane fans. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Skuj 11.05.2009 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek
Elvin Jones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8YRrUg1E8s Oh my!

Hey NR, what do you think about OM? A lot of people dislike it but I think it's quite interesting and creative.


I love the late shit, like Om and Ascension.

True story: I had Om on in my car, really loud. Parked car. My Dad visited, needed car. Turned ignition on....."AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH WTF".........took him a while to find the volume knob......never ever forgot this........"it was as if someone was strangling pigs"......

He's right, hahaha. Om is fucking intense.

Skuj 11.05.2009 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonic Youth Gossip
coltrane has like 10 AMAZING albums and I can imagine his others are high quality too. him and davis probably had the most consistant output in jazz music up to the 70's


Well, Trane died in 67, and imho, Davis's early 70s stuff was fucking Ace!

I love that Trane and Davis got fucken WEIRD late in their careers. (Well, Davis sold out during the last few years, but....)

The Earl Of Slander 11.05.2009 04:42 AM

Basically, from the point when the "classic" Davis Quintet with Davis, Coltrane, Red Garland, Jimmy Cobb and Philly Joe Jones hits the scene in the mid 50s, right up until Trane dies in 67 and Davis initially retires in 1975, the vast majority of everything those guys produced (which comes to what, like 120 albums or something if you count in the live releases), or at least what I've heard, is fucking gold. It's just unbelievable. There are other jazz band leaders from that period that I still love, like, say, Coleman, but no one can touch those two for consistently making some of the best music ever across such a shocking range of styles. It makes my head spin.

noisereductions 11.05.2009 08:18 AM

Earl, do you have Philly Joe's BLUES FOR DRACULA? Shit is hot.

Rob Instigator 11.05.2009 09:21 AM

cliche's are cliche's cuz they are true


Give me Miles Davis' and Thelonious Monk's recorded output and I will be a happy happy instigator

chicka 11.05.2009 11:09 AM

Dam you folks got me all jealous with envy as I sold all of my jazz collection supporting a bad habit in the early nineties. Everyone mention here is fantastic to throw in a few more names that did some brilliant stuff. Charlie Parker King Curtis, Rashann Roland Kirk. As you can see I really went in for the Sax. Bitches Brew DAM?

Any pointers to downloads of anything mentioned greatly
appreciated.

el duderino 11.05.2009 01:58 PM

http://blaxploitationjive.blogspot.c...scography.html

Derek 10.17.2010 05:15 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMLkxJZZmss

Chick Corea, Anthony Braxton et al doing a fantastic version of 'Impressions'.

Skuj 10.18.2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek
Elvin Jones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8YRrUg1E8s Oh my!

Hey NR, what do you think about OM? A lot of people dislike it but I think it's quite interesting and creative.


Fuckin love Om. I adore Coltrane's late period...4CD Live In Japan with 1hr version of My Favourite Things is a must! Acsension is glorious, twisted, punk-ass noise, Man.

Skuj 10.18.2010 05:30 PM

Haha...forgot that I said the same shit in this thread some time ago.

shabbray2.0 10.18.2010 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
Cotrane is most likely my favorite jazz musician as well.


ever was and ever will.
My favourite things is also my favourite record of him.
ascension is mindblowing!
nuff said

themawt71 10.18.2010 08:50 PM

i love coltrane too. sun ship is my favorite i think.

with all due respect...

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr....B9pUyLIKofY%3D

... ha ha ha


dammit. it doesnt seem to be posting the image for some reason but if you feel like clicking the link it's pretty funny and coltrane related.

noisereductions 10.18.2010 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
4CD Live In Japan with 1hr version of My Favourite Things is a must!


woah!

finding nobody 10.19.2010 09:58 AM

Beautiful record. Coltrane stands out, not just among Jazz musicians, but he stands out amongst all musicians.

EvdWee 10.19.2010 10:19 AM

i really dig coltrane plays the blues.


speaking of top jazz record: jackie mcclean's 'action action action'. with charles tolliver's composition 'plight'

themawt71 10.19.2010 11:17 AM

coltrane plays alto a little bit on live in japan too! forgot which tune tho.


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