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noisereductions 03.30.2014 03:57 PM
I'm still a lot more excited for them to release SY archival releases than I am about any of these solo projects.

Magic Wheel Memory 03.30.2014 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Nobody is going to remember them for their solo records though.

If you mean the general public, then you may be right. But many us established SY fans really like some of the solo records. Last Night on Earth is great.

noisereductions 03.30.2014 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Magic Wheel Memory
If you mean the general public, then you may be right. But many us established SY fans really like some of the solo records. Last Night on Earth is great.

but to just go on what Genteel was saying... would you put any of the solo records in your Top 10 Sonic Youth And Related Albums list? I wouldn't.

Shit. I can barely decide what to cut out for SY records.

I mean I loved Trees Outside, but man, I'd put the bulk of the band's work above that w/o thinking.

Genteel Death 03.31.2014 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by noisereductions
but to just go on what Genteel was saying... would you put any of the solo records in your Top 10 Sonic Youth And Related Albums list? I wouldn't.

Shit. I can barely decide what to cut out for SY records.

I mean I loved Trees Outside, but man, I'd put the bulk of the band's work above that w/o thinking.

what he says

Mortte Jousimo 03.31.2014 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by noisereductions
but to just go on what Genteel was saying... would you put any of the solo records in your Top 10 Sonic Youth And Related Albums list? I wouldn't.

Shit. I can barely decide what to cut out for SY records.

I mean I loved Trees Outside, but man, I'd put the bulk of the band's work above that w/o thinking.
I agree. I really like all the solo material I´ve heard (some of it I love) but any of them aren´t as great as any Sonic album. It´s possible they´re not remembered their solo material in the future, but on the other hand there is also lots of great music existing that will not be generally remembered in the future. And personally it´s quite same to me, what of my favourite music is going to be remembered in the future, I believe I will listen it anyway.

Diesel 03.31.2014 08:30 AM
As far as solo material is concerned i'd put Psychic Hearts above most SY albums.

Body/Head, you can keep your recordings of grown women in their 60's barking like dogs to yourselves thanks.

stu666 04.02.2014 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mil_pl
From Thurston's Facebook:

today: recording new songs for new cd with steve shelley, deb, james in secret location in north london - september release

Who is Deb?

Googe?

scott v 04.10.2014 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Body/Head is excellent but it isn't Sonic Youth for sure. Lee Ranaldo's records are only a little better than Thurston's. Maybe. Change in direction is fine, I encourage that sort of thing myself because it must be boring to always do the same thing. If the actual songs were any good. But they're not. I mean, it's great that they are musicians and do what they are known for and they, as artists, love doing. Nobody is going to remember them for their solo records though.

I agree with Genteel, Lee's (Dust band) songs are fairly different than anything thats like sonic youth or even his song's in SY definitely also give him credit for that, i like some of the songs on the 1st Dust album and tried several times to listen to the 2nd (latest) and just can't wrap my head around it.

I have the Body/Head/Gate LP and thats pretty heavy and great and I like it better than the Matador LP.

Thurston seems to keep the SY-sound-vibe which to me is somewhat reinforcing to me as him being the principle songwriter in SY (though it was still a fairly democratic band, he was bringing in most of riffs...) though his playing style seems to be changing subtly (riffs and chord progressions have a more complex sound but remain having an open chord tone... does that make sense???) within the last few years even within that he's still using the "Pavement tuning" and its variant (CLM was primarily CGDGBB / and now with the new songs that will become the next album i figured out he's gone back to CGDGCD based on the new youtube vids of the most recent gigs).

Yeah, who is Deb? I'm not even familiar w/ James Sedwards??? ...and so is Steve now in Thurston's band and still in Lee's??? (or on brief hiatus from the Dust, whom i assuming are taking a break). I'm just wondering since the 3 of Lee, Thurston, Steve still play in the same circles (one degree form each other) will the time come when SY reunites without Kim (..dare I say???) oddly, i would think its possible more so now than obviously a year or two ago.

Mortte Jousimo 04.10.2014 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by scott v
I agree with Genteel, Lee's (Dust band) songs are fairly different than anything thats like sonic youth or even his song's in SY definitely also give him credit for that, i like some of the songs on the 1st Dust album and tried several times to listen to the 2nd (latest) and just can't wrap my head around it.

I have the Body/Head/Gate LP and thats pretty heavy and great and I like it better than the Matador LP.

Thurston seems to keep the SY-sound-vibe which to me is somewhat reinforcing to me as him being the principle songwriter in SY (though it was still a fairly democratic band, he was bringing in most of riffs...) though his playing style seems to be changing subtly (riffs and chord progressions have a more complex sound but remain having an open chord tone... does that make sense???) within the last few years even within that he's still using the "Pavement tuning" and its variant (CLM was primarily CGDGBB / and now with the new songs that will become the next album i figured out he's gone back to CGDGCD based on the new youtube vids of the most recent gigs).

Yeah, who is Deb? I'm not even familiar w/ James Sedwards??? ...and so is Steve now in Thurston's band and still in Lee's??? (or on brief hiatus from the Dust, whom i assuming are taking a break). I'm just wondering since the 3 of Lee, Thurston, Steve still play in the same circles (one degree form each other) will the time come when SY reunites without Kim (..dare I say???) oddly, i would think its possible more so now than obviously a year or two ago.
I disagree. Wednesday Dust-gig there were moments, that if I had shutted my eyes, I would have easily imagined there were SY in the stage. Also I hear something from SY in Body/Head & Thurston´s outputs.

The Soup Nazi 04.13.2014 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
Wednesday Dust-gig there were moments, that if I had shutted my eyes, I would have easily imagined there were SY in the stage.

This was a Steveless show, right?

 


Lee's caption: The Dust/Scandinavian tour, w Tomas Ortved on drums - "our Jimmy Nicol". #SortSol #getbetterSteve. What happened to Steve? Whatever it was, get well soon indeed!

EDIT - Never mind, I hadn't read the "Scandinavian Tour" thread... Dammit, lots to read here. :D

Mortte Jousimo 04.14.2014 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
This was a Steveless show, right?



 


Lee's caption: The Dust/Scandinavian tour, w Tomas Ortved on drums - "our Jimmy Nicol". #SortSol #getbetterSteve. What happened to Steve? Whatever it was, get well soon indeed!

EDIT - Never mind, I hadn't read the "Scandinavian Tour" thread... Dammit, lots to read here. :D
Yep!

scott v 04.29.2014 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
This was a Steveless show, right?

 


Lee's caption: The Dust/Scandinavian tour, w Tomas Ortved on drums - "our Jimmy Nicol". #SortSol #getbetterSteve. What happened to Steve? Whatever it was, get well soon indeed!

EDIT - Never mind, I hadn't read the "Scandinavian Tour" thread... Dammit, lots to read here. :D

Steve now plays with Thurston, James Sedwards and some bass player???

Thurston has dropped the CLM band and has started another... they've done a few shows without the bass player, vids are on youtube.

The Soup Nazi 04.29.2014 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by scott v
Steve now plays with Thurston, James Sedwards and some bass player???

Thurston has dropped the CLM band and has started another... they've done a few shows without the bass player, vids are on youtube.

A coupla months ago or so Thurston said he was still playing with/as Chelsea Light Moving. Is CLM done?
:confused:

Mortte Jousimo 04.30.2014 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
A coupla months ago or so Thurston said he was still playing with/as Chelsea Light Moving. Is CLM done?
:confused:
No-one knows, but it seems it is so.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.30.2014 11:11 PM
I think last night on earth is definitely Lee's best solo record and possible better than most of his Sonic Youth material, I find almost ALL of Thurston's solo shit from any era boring..

loop cat 05.01.2014 04:58 AM
Psychic Hearts it's not boring

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.01.2014 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by loop cat
Psychic Hearts it's not boring

I bought it, listened to it possibly twice, and then it never caught my interest again, I've listened to the noise record with White Out and the noise record Four Guitars Live with much more urgency ;)

loop cat 05.01.2014 05:05 PM
i know both records you said , it's another universe , and the freedom of expression it's far away, from the pop structure of Psychic Hearts (anyway good for sundays afternoon)

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.01.2014 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by loop cat
i know both records you said , it's another universe , and the freedom of expression it's far away, from the pop structure of Psychic Hearts (anyway good for sundays afternoon)

I was just trolling, Psychic Hearts is ok.. I still only listened to it a few times but its one of the few slightly-less-than-boring Thurston solo records. Notice I said "ALMOST ALL" not all ;)

Anyway, glad to see you contributing posts beyond just photobombing us as is my usual roll. Keep posting please

deflinus 05.01.2014 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by loop cat
Psychic Hearts it's not boring

indeed.
these new youtube vids of him and shelley are bring back psychic heart vibes.
the last part of 'elegy for all the dead rock stars' is thurston and shelley at their best. i love that song


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