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SpectralJulianIsNotDead 08.15.2006 07:13 PM

Sonic Youth in Our Band Could Be Your Life
 
Is it just me, or does Michael Azerrad paint Sonic Youth to be be really big assholes? I just got the book yesterday and started with the Sonic Youth part. It really seems like they just used a lot of people to get ahead in the indie rock world.

acousticrock87 08.15.2006 07:18 PM

I saw that book yesterday and was about to pick it up when I was distracted by a Pettibon artbook. What is it even about?

Everyneurotic 08.15.2006 07:21 PM

it's the biography of black flag, minutemen, mission of burma, minor threat, hüsker dü, replacements, big black, sy, butthole surfers, dinosaur jr, mudhoney, fugazi and beat happening and how they contributed to the indie rock movement of the eighties.

i hate michael azzerad...i won't be ungrateful because finding the history of most these bands is hard and having the book is pretty good. but i hate how simplistic he puts everything.

in short, he wrote the book to prove where nirvana's roots are which is missing the whole point of indie rock. also, according to him, all bands owe to r.e.m., got shit from p.i.l. and all are hippies in disguise. plus most everything from sy's part of the book is pretty much cut n' pasted from confusion is next: the book, plus some annecdotes aside.

i recommend reading the book but with a fairly critical mind and not believing everything he wrote.

Pookie 08.15.2006 07:26 PM

I read this when it came out. I don't remember him portraying anybody in a bad way, my memory is of him being, if anything, a bit obsequious. It WAS a while ago though so I may be mistaken.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 08.15.2006 07:32 PM

It has the history of American underground in the form of 13 chapters detailing 13 bands:
Black Flag
Minutemen
Minor Threat
Mission of Burma
Sonic Youth
Butthole Surfers
Fugazi
Beat Happening
Big Black
Mudhoney
Dinosaur Jr
Husker Du
The Replacements

Cantankerous 08.15.2006 07:38 PM

i read it. i also read that kurt cobain book he did. i don't like him really.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 08.15.2006 07:54 PM

Oh. He did a book on Cobain? That is so lame.

I still think it is an interesting read so far, there are some really good albini quptes in hte Big Black section.

Everyneurotic 08.15.2006 08:07 PM

he is a cobain cocksucker, to be more specific.

he once wrote a piece on the pixies for revolver magazine and he briefed their importance on the fact that they influenced kurt cobain on writing "smells like teen spirit"

my favorite albini quote: "the word 'fag' isn't just a gay term, it's funny in it's own -phonetically- like the words 'hockey puck', 'muklucks', 'gefilte fish' and 'canada'"

dazedcola 08.15.2006 09:07 PM

why do you all hate the book ? I thought it was a great read, he showed more of the importance of making music for music sake. It made me want to be more independent about stuff and it made me want to look for bands that are underneath other radars. I loved the chapters he did on the replacements, husker du, dinosaur jr and mission of burma.

Cantankerous 08.15.2006 09:46 PM

Because he's a pompous fruitcake, not unlike myself.

acousticrock87 08.15.2006 09:49 PM

They're saying they hate the author, not the book.

golden child 08.15.2006 09:52 PM

he did a nirvana biography, but it was put out while they were still togather. so he was talking/hanging out with the band while he wrote it

i read it back when i was a huge nirvana fan, its ok. its interested because its not from the perspective of kurt being dead, and isnt influenced by any major people dying.

Ono Soul 08.15.2006 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
it's the biography of black flag, minutemen, mission of burma, minor threat, hüsker dü, replacements, big black, sy, butthole surfers, dinosaur jr, mudhoney, fugazi and beat happening and how they contributed to the indie rock movement of the eighties.


I'm not familiar with this particular book, but this reminds me of a similar book on the 80's indie rock movement called "Route 666 On The Road To Nirvana" by Gina Arnold. It's been years since I read it but I do recall it being a pretty good read.... The Azzerad book on Nirvana is called "Come As You Are". I haven't read that one in years either but I read it a couple times back when it first came out and most definitely enjoyed it.

Everyneurotic 08.15.2006 10:21 PM

i read it constantly, don't get me wrong, mainly because i love most of the bands on it; it's just that his personal notes he puts in between the lines really irk me.

i love the concept of the book and think there should be more books like that with a broader take on bands.

i also thought it was rather snobby "indie than thou" that he stopped telling the story of these bands once they hit the 90's and/or signed to a major; to me, it kinda says "ohh nothing but nirvana is worth mentioning".

Ripchord 08.16.2006 09:56 AM

I'm still on the part about The Minutemen.

sonicl 08.16.2006 09:58 AM

I enjoy the book, but I think the SY part plagiarises pretty badly from "Confusion is Next" and other books.

defcon4 08.16.2006 11:12 AM

It's a good book. Shows how all those bands had to struggle, living in vans, washing dishes for money, just to make it as indie artists, which of course isn't that great of a financial reward. In defense of the author, it seemed well researched. The Butthole Surfers chapter is pretty funny.

dazedcola 08.16.2006 11:27 AM

Its a dream of mine to one day write a sequel like book about indie rock in the 90s, hmm what would it be called?

fluxequalsrad 08.16.2006 11:36 AM

Pavement
Nirvana
Yo La Tengo
Sonic Youth (pt.2, how could you not include it)
Smashing Pumpkins
Guided by Voices
Sebadoh
Beck
The Frogs :)

???

Rob Instigator 08.16.2006 11:40 AM

I thought it was fantastic and perfect. netowrking is essential, I say again, ESSENTIAL, to succes sin the underground. Sonic youth used noone. the book does not say they did either, it just prints opi nions of some people, jealous people, who say so. Sonic youth helped out so many people, so many labels, so to anyone who says the youth used them, FUCK OFF


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