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Inhuman 09.25.2006 07:37 PM

Groundwater Music
 
GroundWater Music

-The site is up, just has to update on all the DNS servers across the world. Should take a day or two. However, you can access it directly instead of by DN.

http://71.18.202.131/index.html

-I am ready to set up your email accounts, everyone that's participating just PM me your real name and whatever you want your password to be. Feel lucky, they're all POP3 email addresses, so you use higher end email programs such as outlook to run it:) Please send top songs once a week

-I am not ready to get reviews up at this point in time. Give me maybe 2 weeks.

-I will be making PDF's for all of you with everything you need to know about contributing.

-For site suggestions, post it in this thread or email me at webmaster@groundwatermusic.com.

-I'm mainly setting everything up now, it will take a while before everything is configured because I have school and all to focus on, but I'll try my best and get everything set up ASAP. Forums are on their way, but I'll have to fix the layout because it sucks.

That's all for now. Thanks for helping out!

with MUCH MUCH love,
Rob

Norma J 09.25.2006 07:40 PM

Hot Water Music?

Inhuman 09.25.2006 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J
Hot Water Music?


Groundwater is the sitename, but it's taken up in .com and .net, so I had to add music.

Norma J 09.25.2006 07:44 PM

I like it.

Пятхъдесят Шест 09.25.2006 07:51 PM

I've bookmarked it, good luck!

finding nobody 09.25.2006 09:25 PM

I'd like a round of appluase for my man Rob!

Everyneurotic 09.25.2006 09:41 PM

i like groundwatermusic, it's vague enough yet referential enough.

HaydenAsche 09.25.2006 10:32 PM

Good work, Inhuman.

Really, I'm impressed. As I have alot of free time and do nothing but listen to music I'll be helping as much as possible. This will give me so many indie points. I can see the hipster fags drooling over me now.

Alex's Trip 09.25.2006 10:34 PM

Awesome!

sonicl 09.26.2006 03:23 AM

Nice one, Rob. Well done for having the balls to get up and do it.

Inhuman 09.26.2006 08:52 AM

Haha, thanks everyone! Most of the DNS servers are updated and the site works now, maybe not across the world, but for sure in all of canada/america. I'm having a little bit of trouble with the layers not showing? They were fine last night, so I'll get that fixed right away as soon as I get home. Well I'm off to set up more mail accounts!

To log into your mail account, use the first letter of your first name and your entire last name @groundwatermusic.com.

For Example:
Your name: Jack Beefheart
Your email: jbeefheart@groundwatermusic.com

You can login here for webmail:
mail.groundwatermusic.com

if that doesn't work, use this:
http://69.49.238.2/


IF YOU WANT TO USE OUTLOOK:
If you want a better mail program than the webmail service, in outlook do this:

1. You do not have an outlook account already and get the "Outlook Startup Screen"
-Click Next
-For exchange server click "Yes"
-Click "POP3" mail server
-Type your name, and give your Groundwater email address
-For incoming/outgoing mail, fill both fields in with mail.groundwatermusic.com
-Type email and password in the bottom and click next

2. You already use outlook
-Tools -> Email Accounts -> Add new email account
-Follow instructions above

Tell me if you have any problems!

Have a good day,
Rob

LittlePuppetBoy 09.26.2006 11:24 AM

Congrats Rob!

nicfit 09.26.2006 12:00 PM

with my laptop (screen resolution 1280x800) the background is repeated on the right and you can see a portion of the page with

under
Revi



Top10

hope you understand what i mean...

what about adding a "retro" column to give suggestion on old albums/songs/artist?
A name like "DeLorean Tour" would crack me up.

edit: if delorean is not a band name....in that case it swould sound like the tour dates for that band...

Everyneurotic 09.26.2006 12:04 PM

it looks fine in my computer, just a little to the right of my screen.

golden child 09.26.2006 12:07 PM

it doubles on my computer too. high res

you need to put no repeat on the css, and then center it.

nicfit 09.26.2006 12:07 PM

yeh,i guess the "panoramic screen"+ strange resolution cause some issues on my browser.

!@#$%! 09.26.2006 12:24 PM

looks good, the xhtml is very simple, which i like, i have a few suggestions:

try turning off the styles in firefox right now & your content disappears. it
would be really good have regular characters over the background, you don't really need to photoshop the letters. that has the added bonus that people can enlarge or reduce the size of the headings along with the rest of the characters in their screen, and can read your content with images turned off.

your img tags need to self-close in xhtml
so it's <img .... /> and not <img>
that extra space + slash make it xhtml compliant

also, be kind to 56k & the cellphone users & the blind (you'd think they'd be big music fans) and add an alt text for your images so they know what they are "looking" at when the image doesn't download.

also, while fixed horizontal space can be good, fixed vertical is a no-no, because your text will expand & overflow and it will limit your content, font sizes and what not.

what i'd suggest is breaking your large image into pieces (much like image slices), set them as background for each individual <div> which corresponds to a section: reviews, news, downloads, etc. now, here is the trick: you make the image BIGGER than the div so that when it expands vertically (oh so nice) the div slides and uncovers more of the image, so there is no naked space.

additionally, it's quite simple to provide a background color for the page that corresponds to the sandy color of your background images. that way, people who are on modems or cellphones with images turned off will still see something close to the original design (it degrades nicely).

the layout you control using the FLOAT property so that your divs (which are little boxes really) pile next to each other. it is a little tricky to get the exact number you want in each line without overflow, but with the use of width & the clear property you'll get it just right much like tables used to take care of this back in 1997...

finally-- while fixed width is nice, i kinda like to strive for fluid layouts that can expand and shrink with the browser window size. you can use max-width and min-width for your body or wrapper divs so it doesn't become a strand of spaghetti in a monster screen, say something between 774 to 2000px?

good job man, i hope this helps.

Inhuman 09.26.2006 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
Good work, Inhuman.

Really, I'm impressed. As I have alot of free time and do nothing but listen to music I'll be helping as much as possible. This will give me so many indie points. I can see the hipster fags drooling over me now.


thanks! Your account is set up. We should definately have people to double check reviews, it can make articles out of other people's lexicon's so they'll sound more sophisticated and stuff. We should just post articles on the board and have people look them over!

In regards to the rating system, I wasn't planning to have one. Everybody will rate an album differently because it's all subjective as to whether the album's good or not. Reviews will at least provide brief ideas of what to expect, despite if it's good or bad. Like, I think the infamous NYC Ghosts & Flowers rating on Pitchfork is nowhere near accurate. The writer of that review could have easily given good descriptions of the album, despite the fact that he didn't like it- but of course he's on pitchfork, what do you expect

!@#$%! 09.26.2006 01:21 PM

whoa, i just tried to open the page & got this address:

http://www.groundwatermusic.com/inde...ml index.html

then

The page isn't redirecting properly













Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.








* This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept
cookies.

---

you put a werd redirect somewhere there?

Inhuman 09.26.2006 01:35 PM

Just removed redirect, running into a lot of other problems. I'll figure them out tonight. I appreciate all the feedback, I've only had it for a day so there's tonnes of things I need to fix. I'm aware of the doubling background, It's worse in higher screen resolutions.

Thanks for the nice post !@#$%!, I'm getting to all of it tonight! Thanks for pointing out about XHTML images, I ALWAYS forget about the closing slash.
In fact, I have a sheet of paper completely filled with things I need to do to the site.

As for the retro column, I actually really want to review old albums as well. We can have a special section in the reviews page for it!

How many of you are able to see the site content (mailing list + news) in internet explorer? I'm not able to but in other browsers I am. I removed a script and it looks perfect in local, but it shows the OLD code in remote. I'm so not getting any sleep tonight.


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