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Old 12.01.2010, 01:11 AM   #42
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How is my any part of my argument invalid?

You just said that because middle class people often can't afford uni either that means my argument is invalid.

This makes absolutely no sense.

Teaching total bullshit? Why did you even say that? The point of school is so you are not taught total bullshit. Thats why we need education. That's why we need more education, to improve the standard of thought, and improve the standard of teaching.

Also. NOT anyone who wants to go to school can. This is what we have been talking about the whole time. Many people can't go because they can't afford. They get free education up to a certain point yes. But the qualifications you get with that education is very rarely enough to get you into a high paid job or have a chance at being in the middle class by the time you are 30.

Not many people starve to death in America yes. But millions die early due to poor nutrition because of their poverty. Millions of lives are lived below the potential they could have been lived at. Education is a way to ameliorate the problems of poverty and one of the best ways to give people a chance to actually be able to make a decent standard of living in the future. Millions of people also don't go on to do amazing and important things economically or socially because they haven't had a good education, comforts in life and the opportunity to develop their minds instead of having to use them solely to survive from mouth to mouth.

Without education subsidies the working class/lower middle class cannot afford a post high school education. This means they go on to make less money, have less skills and make less innovations and general progress. This decreases wealth for the WHOLE of the society. Not just them.

The problem is nothing to do with little kids believing bible stories are real. If they were secular atheists this wouldn't somehow solve all your problems.

As for America being stupid, well of course that's the problem. There comes a point in the life of any civilisation when you hit a slump in economic growth/productivity. There is less money, less food, and if this isn't corrected somehow it causes a slump in national IQ average and then you are on a downward spiral towards hell that you can't really pull out of. By the end of it the civilisation is over and the remaining few are either dying or off being absorbed into some other nation.

It's really not hard to understand. The worse food you feed a baby, the worse its brain develops as it grows. The poorer you are the less likely you are to be able to afford better food for your kids. The more you educate a child the smarter and more competent they will grow up to be. The more skills they will have, the more money they will make. The same applies to entire nations. Without education in peoples lives they turn savage pretty quickly. Education socialises and encourages cooperation and general well being. You cannot have a healthy society that cuts off its young at age 16 with only the qualifications to work menial jobs unless they are rich. If only the rich get higher education then you get nepotism.

Go look at the rank of all nations and see the correlation between wealth and IQ. Notice which countries are at the top and which are at the bottom. Now those nations didn't just get to were they are because of the diet that was available in the region were they live. They got their because of cooperative projects to create a social body. Not every man for himself. Education is what did this. You need to educate EVERYONE. Not just those that can afford it.
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