There is tendency to under-value Goo and Dirty and EJSTNS here I think because of their mainstream appeal. There are some who don't think those albums represent the band best, and were mostly made to aim for a wider fanbase at just the time when their kind of music which they had been playing for a good ten years was getting attention. There may be some truth to that opinion but I don't think it takes away the listenability of those albums.
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