I don't get all this black metal hate going on. I guess the mistake is people just listening to the mainstream black metal bands, who can be pretty subpar. Ignore shit like Immortal right now. If you want genuinely good black metal you should check out the likes of Darkthrone, Craft, Gallhammer, Arcturus, and so on. There's plenty of great black metal out there, but much like every genre the great stuff is found floating in a sea of mediocrity
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