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Old 10.21.2018, 09:16 AM   #4810
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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
Not so fast: The post Civil War Amendments and subsequent civil rights legislation did much to extend the promise of the enlightenment to everyone.

hahahahahhahahaaaaa

the post civil war amendments and jim crow, redlining, imprisonment of japanese americans, the tuskeegee experiment...

civil rights and the government pumping heroin and crack into black neighborhoods

hahahahahahaha

yes please tell me more about how black people have full equality in america.

come ON.

you can’t be so out of touch, can you?

be serious

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
African-Americans have been fully enfranchised for over half a century now (the current Republican racial gerrymandering is before the courts, and there is now precedent in US Supreme Court decisions for overturning biased maps),

oh, all of half a century! after all those amendments! minus the gerrymandering of course. yeah. freedom...

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and gays and trans people have always been able to vote and speak. Who is excluded now?

“gays” as you say, are not yet treated as full human beings and still lack civil rights in many states

same sex unions are not even two decades old! and that’s just in vermont

transgender people are barely coming out of hiding and into safety for the first time and are promptly getting pummeled by the reactionaries

from this morning’s nyt

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/21/u...gtype=Homepage


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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
I agree with your views on your solution #2, but there also seems to be a lot of dramatic kicking at doors that are already open.

i understand the dramatics and can tolerate them or support them because the doors are not open, or open to a brick wall, or slam your head over and over when you try to cross them

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
The idea of the supremacy of the individual is necessary to the fundamental concept of human rights, with the possibility of Tyranny of the Majority being already dealt with via the Constitution's counter-majoritarian machinery (one part of which, the Electoral College, recently saved the vital concerns of (nearly) half the country from being drowned out by the loud and crowded coasts (in other words, it ended their silencing and gave them a voice, in Multi-Cultist terminology)).

if this means that working class whites embraced identity politics and started acting like an ethnic block, yes i agree

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Keep the experiment rolling, but, as you said, don't bring the whole house down.

you mean don’t open the front door to colored women because they already have a service entrance in the back?

the dramatics and kicking at doors that you complain about are what keep the experiment rolling. it’s the only thing that’s ever worked.

olympic detachment is a sign at the door saying “we’re closed”
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