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Old 07.09.2020, 11:57 AM   #8361
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Bobby Schunk will say how he doesn't have to reveal his records and he's right.

Um... No, he's not, because Trump's bullcrap organizations are under criminal investigation; this isn't some mook off the street who's never had any problem with the IRS suddenly being stopped by the coppers and forced to reveal his shit.

Anyway, you gotta love the 7-2 vote: Gorsuch and Kavanaugh (Kavanaugh!) voted "against him". He must be cursing those who told him to appoint them like the little bitch that he is.

 
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Old 07.10.2020, 03:44 PM   #8362
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The whole process will take sufficient time press and public will, most likely, not hear the evidence until after the election.


With their decision, the Supreme Court wasn’t necessarily worried about what takes place in November 2020, rather, the precedent being set for future elections. Of course, if truly concerned about an individual’s tax returns, Congress could take the necessary steps and require future Presidential candidates to release their taxes before appearing on a ballot.

Republicans Should Subpoena the Tax Returns of Every Supreme Court Justice


Also, an individual paying “hush money” with their own money isn’t a crime, but blackmailing someone is!

If our tax money is going to pay for an investigation, someone should investigate the “hushed up scandals” involving members of Congress who have paid “hush money” with our tax money......THIS IS ILLEGAL, but the free minded freethinkers aren’t interested in that!
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Old 07.10.2020, 03:55 PM   #8363
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Helmut Norpoth, who has correctly predicted 24 out of 26 Presidential Elections, including Trump’s victory in 2016. His model gives the President a 92% chance to be elected again in 2020.

 


Trump Has 91 Percent Chance of Winning Reelection: Political Science Professor

Meanwhile......on the same day as Helmut release:

James Carville: Significant chance that Trump doesn't run

......would the Orange Cheeto actually step aside clearing the way for Black Jesus?

 


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Old 07.10.2020, 08:48 PM   #8365
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Old 07.10.2020, 09:41 PM   #8366
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Of course, if truly concerned about an individual’s tax returns, Congress could take the necessary steps and require future Presidential candidates to release their taxes before appearing on a ballot.

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Funny, every other poll says something more like those numbers would be switched.

Face it, guys. Your savior will not save you from the future or himself from being charged with tax evasion (unless he flees the country never to return, in which case good riddance). For you to support anything he or the modern GOP stand for makes you a disgrace to the fanbase of not just Sonic Youth, but alternative music in general.
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makes him a disgrace, period.
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out of 26 presidential elections? Is this person 120 years old?
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Any coverage of the Stone commutation must make clear-this didn’t happen just because Stone is a “friend” of Trump’s. It happened because Stone clearly could have implicated Trump & didn’t & has made very clear that he wasn’t doing so in order to get this benefit.
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But still certain people on here will shout til their dying breath that Trump is completely innocent.

Everyday is a different scandal with this fucking moron.
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Funny, every other poll says something more like those numbers would be switched.

Face it, guys. Your savior will not save you from the future or himself from being charged with tax evasion (unless he flees the country never to return, in which case good riddance). For you to support anything he or the modern GOP stand for makes you a disgrace to the fanbase of not just Sonic Youth, but alternative music in general.

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out of 26 presidential elections? Is this person 120 years old?

Good catch EVOL, however, the easy explanation......not sure when the first Professor Helmut Norpoth model was used, but not only has it been extremely successful going forward, evidently it was extremely successful when the same parameters were applied going backwards, thusly giving us 24 out of 26 elections over 104 years.

And Genetic......you make it sound as if Donal Trump never filed taxes. Let’s make sure everyone understands, if taxes were illegally evaded, it was done so under the Administrations of Obama and possibly Bush. Anything else would be over 20 years ago and I don’t think can be pursued? Also, if Donal Trump wasn’t President, no one would care about seeing his taxes made public.

Regarding Roger Stone, here at the Beaumont Federal Prison, all nonviolent prisoners over the age of 60 who have any sort of medical condition (high blood pressure, diabetic, ect) were released to serve out the remainder of their sentence at home due to the coronavirus pandemic. Word is they are about to do the same for any nonviolent 50 or older. Also, Texas prisons aren’t taking anyone new. The newly nonviolent convicted must sit it out in county jails, but the county jails are releasing the nonviolent because of the coronavirus outbreak within the jail/prison system......so odds are, Roger Stone probably would have already been sent home to finish the remainder of his sentence if not for is close ties to President Trump. Why can I say this, because here locally, former
Congressman Steve Stockman who is 63 and a diabetic, he wasn’t released from the Beaumont Federal Prison. There is a petition and people have been protesting for his release, but so far he remains locked up.
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Old 07.11.2020, 04:18 PM   #8374
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As much as I abhor the current activities of the republican party and am mind boggled why anyone would vote for them unless you think millionaires should get tax cuts regardless of the cost to social cohesion, or you choose to gleefully disregard what verifiable data says about the sustainability of life. I also don't understand why people hold on to this delusion that maintaining an interest in certain margins of the entertainment industries is equal to political activism or a means to instigate profound egalitarian change in society.
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As much as I abhor the current activities of the republican party and am mind boggled why anyone would vote for them unless you think millionaires should get tax cuts regardless of the cost to social cohesion, or you choose to gleefully disregard what verifiable data says about the sustainability of life. I also don't understand why people hold on to this delusion that maintaining an interest in certain margins of the entertainment industries is equal to political activism or a means to instigate profound egalitarian change in society.
In England a huge amount of political discourse always happened through the arts and nowhere effective for years. Are you surprised?
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Much to my dismay, I discovered today that all 3 members of my immediate family legitimately like Trump, and weren't just voting party line.
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In England a huge amount of political discourse always happened through the arts and nowhere effective for years. Are you surprised?

Political discourse that happens in the arts is just a bunch of people agreeing with each other that such and such a thing is bad.
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In the news today "salt of the earth, man of the people, working class pleb JUST LIKE YOU, also supports a sociopathic mentalist"
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The TRUTH About Pardons And So Much More

“don’t fall for the roger stone hysteria, it’s just a distraction, just like the russia bounty story! the president's power to commute sentences almost absolute!

george washington granted clemency to traitors
andrew johnson pardoned every single confederate soldier
gerald ford pardoned nixon
bill clinton pardoned his own a brother......that’s what brothers are for!!!

bill clinton pardoned the former cia director and his business partner, susan mcdougal......and bill pardon the biggest TAX FRAUD in U.S. history, international fugitive, marc rich......AFTER riches wife donated a half a million to the clinton's presidential library (isn’t that special)

barak obama commuted the sentence of chelsea manning, who conspired with wiki leaks and THE MEDIA LOVED IT!!!

but trump commuted the sentence of roger stone who DID NOT CONSPIRE with wiki leaks and THE MEDIA HATED IT!!!

(do the free minded freethinkers) see what's going on here?

there was never any evidence of collusion because there was never any collusion......nobody's ever been charged with collusion or conspiracy with the russians stone was charged in order to cover-up a corrupt investigation!!!

trumps campaign was framed by the democrats, the cia and the crooked fbi agent's we all know and love......they planted and doctored evidence, they used spies and foreign agents......they illegally leaked and hatched stings AND GOT CAUGHT!!!

what happened was this, roger stone refused to get framed so they tried to put him in jail. stone refused to make-up dirt about trump so they charged with crimes......HOW SICK IS THAT???

If police plant a gun on you and then you throw in the river, you shouldn't be charged with obstruction......that's basically what muller’s boys did here!

stone should have acid washed his hard drive JUST LIKE HILLARY, right???
apparently that's totally fine???

if you tell your buddy not to cooperate with crooked cops because you're being framed, YOU SHOULDN’T BE CHARGED WITH WITNESS TAMPERING!!!

that’s what they did to stone and stone’s buddy testified he was never even intimidated by stone, so they charge them with making false statements??
you know-how easy it is for the feds to make that charge???

that’s the same charge they slapped michael flynn with.

now new notes we just saw that the fbi released show that the fbi didn't even think flynn was lying (remember, this where president barak obama got involved)

Stone told a so-called lie to congress, but james clapper can lie and get away with it......mccabe can lie to investigators and that's okay! congress can lie to you but you'll get locked up for lying to congress???

shifty schiff lied for three years, that he had evidence of collusion = FALSE!!!

but stone said I didn't collude = TRUE......and he gets charged???

you can't cover up a crime that never happened!!!

CROOKED INVESTIGATIONS ONLY PRODUCE CROOKED CHARGES!!!

you can't frame innocent people and investigate them for crimes they didn't commit and then lock them up when they refuse to go along with your show trial.

jury foreman in the stone trial was a raging TRUMP HATER, also! she was a member of the resistance, she's all over social media disparaging donald trump......SHE HATES HIM! but she lies her way on to the jury and gets caught covering upper bias so the juries tainted......right?

NO = the obama appointed judge is okay with it......what a joke!

Now I'll be honest, stone’s no saint! he’s been playing in the gutter for decades, but it doesn't make them a criminal......he’s just a political operator and somewhat of an opportunist! there's guys like stone all over the political world on the left and on the right.

hillary paid a foreign operative MILLIONS to interfere in the election and smear trump with russian disinformation. she bought a warrant so OBAMA could spy on the TRUMP campaign!

IT WAS ALL FAKE, but the media doesn't talk about that because they were in on it!!!!!!!!!!

that's ten times worse than what they say stone did!!!!!!!!!!

now, I also don’t want to hear democrats crowing about the rule of law either, as I said before, pardon power is perfectly legal!!! but here's the point, the left spent the last two months looking the other way, alluding and encouraging mobs to rip down the public property in the middle-of-the-night...statues...the left let radicals create their own country in the middle of seattle.

And, didn't make a move on it until after two black americans were murdered......the rule of law, really?

Biden son was bribed by the chinese in the ukrainians, the saudis were sending clinton foundation millions then they murdered someone in their embassy......did hillary send the money back???

did james comey uphold the rule of law and the fbi doctored evidence to legally spy on the TRUMP campaign?”

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Would you kindly inform them of the fact that a graduate of multiple world-ranked universities who grew up in a Working-Class ethnic immigrant neighborhood in a rust belt city in the American Midwest (that being myself!) fully agrees with them?

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