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Old 08.10.2020, 03:50 AM   #8541
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Whataboutism at its best there.
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Old 08.10.2020, 09:20 AM   #8542
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Oh you mean the working class who are going to need Social Security and Medicare more than anybody else as they age and are seeing the steps towards those programs being defunded before their very eyes, presented as some kind of boon to them ? Americans and fine print just aren’t compatible.
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Old 08.10.2020, 09:49 AM   #8543
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Speaking of programs being defunded, the crime rates in cities that are actively defunding the police are skyrocketing......early AM Chicago is the latest example:


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Old 08.10.2020, 03:08 PM   #8544
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Perhaps the executive order is enough to provoke the Madame speaker into getting a bill passed???

Trump tweet (August 10, 2020)

“So now Schumer and Pelosi want to meet to make a deal. Amazing how it all works, isn’t it. Where have they been for the last 4 weeks when they were “hardliners”, and only wanted BAILOUT MONEY for Democrat run states and cities that are failing badly? They know my phone number!”
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Old 08.10.2020, 03:27 PM   #8545
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"Signing executive orders is not the way our country is supposed to be run"

"Executive orders are an outrage"

Three points to anyone who can guess who said the two statements above.
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Old 08.10.2020, 04:33 PM   #8546
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Why are you guys supporting someone so blatantly unqualified for public office? Is it because after years of dysfunction (mostly perpetrated by the Republicans), you've lost confidence in actual qualified politicians? How exactly have politicians "failed" anyway? By actually charging taxes instead of nickel and dime-ing the country's infrastructure and social programs into uselessness (oh, wait)? By requiring rules preventing impulse purchases of deadly weapons? By letting women and minorities have a say in how the country is run?


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Bytor, one of your sources for that spent literal hours defending the pronounciation "Thighland".
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Old 08.11.2020, 06:03 AM   #8548
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Bytor, one of your sources for that spent literal hours defending the pronounciation "Thighland".

That shit was just great. "Australians, Thais, and British people pronounce 'Thighland"

Sure we all collectively looked at each other and just said "we absolutely don't".
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For those of you who do not C-SPAN, on Tuesday, August 11, 2020, the full U.S. Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit reheard oral arguments to determine whether a federal district court judge must dismiss the perjury case against Michael Flynn as recommended by the Justice Department.

I’ve linked the entire dialog (w/ audio), but I want to bring your attention to 00:18:00

“I THINK THERE IS VERY LIMITED TO -- LIMITED DISCRETION TO TURN OR DENY THAT MOTION. THERE IS IN THE CASE LAW EXAMPLES LIKE THE ONE, JUDGE MILLETT OR ANOTHER JUDGE USED ABOUT BRIBERY OF THE PROSECUTOR. IN FOKKER ITSELF THE COURT RECOGNIZES THERE IS AN ASSUMPTION OF REGULARITY -- PRESUMPTION OF IRREGULARITY. JUDGE TATEL: LET'S SAY YOU'RE RIGHT THERE IS SOME DISCRETION TO DENY THE MOTION, THEN WHAT HAPPENS?“

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“IN THIS CASE IT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHEN A PROSECUTION IS INITIATED IF IT WERE DENIED, THERE IS NO ROLE FOR THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH ANY FURTHER BECAUSE SENTENCING IS THE ONLY THING THAT IS LEFT. NOW THE GOVERNMENT AND MR. FLYNN COULD TAKE THE POSITION THEY ARE GOING TO MANDAMUS AFTER THAT, THAT IS WHAT I BELIEVE THEY THINK WOULD BE THEIR NEXT STEP. IF THAT DID NOT HAPPEN THE DEFENDANT WOULD GO ON TO SENTENCING AND THEN THERE WOULD BE AN APPEAL BY EITHER ONE OR BOTH OF THE PARTIES. JUDGE ROGERS: -- JUDGE TATEL: HOW WOULD THAT APPEAL COME OUT?

Beth Wilkerson (a defense attorney) saying, “There would be no role for the prosecutor with regards to a sentencing of the individual defendant who is no longer being prosecuted by the government“ is unbelievable:

A) U.S. code: 28 U.S. Code § 455 “you are disqualified if you are a party to the proceeding”

B) this is a prosecution without a prosecutor! You have no solicitor, you have no district attorney, you have no US attorney......the attorney general of the United States decided to dismiss this case!!


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Trump Just Admitted He's Sabotaging the USPS to Screw Up the Election
“They need that money in order to make the Post Office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots."


President Donald Trump said the quiet part out loud, admitting he’s intentionally withholding money from the U.S. Postal Service to undermine its ability to handle mail-in voting in the 2020 election.

“They need that money in order to make the Post Office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots,” Trump said on Fox Business Thursday morning of the states that are implementing universal mail-in voting ahead of the November election. “But if they don’t get those two items, that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting, because they’re not equipped to have it.”

The comments make clear why Trump and congressional Republicans have steadfastly refused to grant the Post Office money in the latest round of negotiations over coronavirus stimulus. Trump has long attacked mail voting as fraud-prone even though there’s little evidence that’s true — and he sees slowdowns at the Post Office as a way to screw up mail voting.

Widespread delays in ballot delivery could disenfranchise millions of people, lead to widespread chaos, and potentially swing a close election. Polls show that Democrats are increasingly likely to use mail voting as a safe way to cast a ballot during the pandemic, while Trump’s attacks on mail voting have pushed Republicans away from a method they’ve often used in the past.

Since Trump-donor Louis DeJoy took over the running of the Post Office in June, the mail has been slowed down considerably in at least 19 states, an alarming sign heading into the election. DeJoy’s new operational changes have included overhauling the service’s senior leadership and directing carriers to leave on time — even if the mail hasn’t been loaded —immediately in the morning, resulting in them only delivering packages and letters sorted the prior night, according to Reuters.


Trump’s comments to Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo echo statements he made at a Wednesday press conference at the White House.

“They don’t have the money to do the universal mail-in voting,” Trump said of the Post Office, which is requesting billions in emergency funding. “So, therefore, they can’t do it, I guess. Are they going to do it even if they don’t have the money?”

Trump also said using mail-in voting would cause “one of the greatest frauds in history.”

In a statement ripping into Trump’s Fox Business comments, Joe Biden campaign spokesperson Andrew Bates said: “The President of the United States is sabotaging a basic service that hundreds of millions of people rely upon, cutting a critical lifeline for rural economies and for delivery of medicines, because he wants to deprive Americans of their fundamental right to vote safely during the most catastrophic public health crisis in over 100 years,” Bates said.

The delays and the administration’s posture toward mail-in voting have drawn fierce criticism from Democratic leaders, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. The two sent a joint letter last month to DeJoy demanding a reversal of the recent changes at the USPS, saying the changes “threaten the timely delivery of mail—including medicines for seniors, paychecks for workers, and absentee ballots for voters—that is essential to millions of Americans.”

And this week, House and Senate Democrats sent separate letters to DeJoy laying the blame for the recent mail delays at his feet.

“The House is seriously concerned that you are implementing policies that accelerate the crisis at the Postal Service, including directing Post Offices to no longer treat all election mail as First Class,” Pelosi and 174 other House Democrats wrote. “If implemented now, as the election approaches, this policy will cause further delays to election mail that will disenfranchise voters and put significant financial pressure on election jurisdictions.”

In the Senate letter, Schumer and Sens. Amy Klobuchar, Tom Carper, and Gary Peters asked DeJoy to commit “to prioritize the delivery of all election mail,” and ripped into his leadership. “Instead of taking steps to increase your agency’s ability to deliver for the American people, you are implementing policy changes that make matters worse, and the Postal Service is reportedly considering changes that would increase costs for states at a time when millions of Americans are relying on voting by mail to exercise their right to vote,” the Senate Democrats wrote.


He's a little fucking rat. Love to know how republicans can be A-OK with this. Or is it now "well if we want to win the election it doesn't matter what gets done to get it".
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Love to know how republicans can be A-OK with this. Or is it now "well if we want to win the election it doesn't matter what gets done to get it".

Are you surprised? I'm not speaking out of jadedness; just chads, voter suppression, and Russian bots.

ETA: Aaaand gerrymandering, of course.
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He's a little fucking rat. Love to know how republicans can be A-OK with this. Or is it now "well if we want to win the election it doesn't matter what gets done to get it".

Because you don’t go and change how things are done less than 100 days from an election! Mail in voting is the fast track to voter fraud and I don’t want my tax dollars funding voter fraud......why else hasn’t congress voted on, passed and funded this mass mail in possibility in the past?

American’s voted in person during the World Wars and previous pandemics in the past. People have no problem making their way to the streets to protest and they sure know how to line up at the liquor stores in weed dispensaries!

If you want to vote, grab your mask and stand in line!!!

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Because you don’t go and change how things are done less than 100 days from an election! Mail in voting is the fast track to voter fraud and I don’t want my tax dollars funding voter fraud......why else hasn’t congress voted on, passed and funded this mass mail in possibility in the past?


Any evidence to go with that waffle? No, you don't. You're just parroting Trump's lines cos he's shitting himself about it.

Furthermore, I'm actually baffled by this "Americans voted in person during the world wars!" argument. Who are you referring to here? The civilians in America who had no risk going out to vote? The soldiers in far flung counties who were voting by, you guessed it, mail? Please explain to me this argument so it's so nonsensical.

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Really need to start heeding these words don't I.
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Oh come ON, again?

Trump campaign adviser floats false birther theory about Kamala Harris' eligibility for vice president

More: https://news.google.com/stories/CAAq...S&ceid=US%3Aen
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https://resist.bot/news/2020/04/12/save-the-post-office

Just did this in support of the U.S. Postal Service. Its, easy, quick, and costs you nothing, so why not?

Also, this tweet: "After Elizabeth Warren's request the Postal Service independent watchdog is investigatingTrump magadonor Louis DeJoy policy changes and potential ethics conflicts."

Elizabeth Warren, one of the few out there with a spine to do something effective, and she gets shit on by people for doing so.
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I usually try to avoid the political discussion here over the weekends, usually just posting about music and such. However, when you wake up Friday afternoon to Obamagate news......one must share:

NPR tweet thread

Just in: FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith plans to plead guilty to charges related to information-gathering involving the Trump campaign and Russia four years ago, according to his lawyer. It's the first criminal charges associated with how the Russian investigation was conducted.

Clinesmith had been identified in an earlier report by the Justice Department inspector general. He allegedly doctored an email to help get court approval for continued surveillance of onetime Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.

Subsequent investigations validated the core findings of the Russia investigation: That Russia attacked the election in 2016. But they also revealed problems with some actions by the FBI and the Justice Department. More on the charge against Clinesmith:

Ex-FBI Lawyer To Plead Guilty In Case Linked To Alleged Abuse Of Surveillance Power

“Former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith has agreed to plead guilty to a single false statement charge, marking the first criminal action in an investigation centered on how intelligence agencies gathered information involving the Trump campaign and Russia four years ago in the waning months of the Obama administration.

“In the waning months of the Obama administration”

It was June 7, 2018 when I first mentioned Executive Order 12333 wondering why President Obama wanted to change how the nation’s intelligence agencies could spy on Americans.

Seriously......any of you free minded freethinkers care to speculate as to why President Obama would make such a change 72 hours shy of his Presidency ending?

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Robert Mueller has requested that witnesses turn in their private cellphones as he wants to search any encrypted messaging programs.

A request is not the same as a subpoena!

What would happen if any of these witnesses destroyed their private cell phone in the same manner as Hillary Clinton?

Is there a Two-Tier Justice System??

Is it possible Robert Mueller wants the private cellphones so evidence can be implanted?

I’m surprised no one here hasn't asked why President Donald Trump hasn’t overturned Executive Order 12333???

Could it be our President will use this Executive Order to??????


BREAKING NEWS

Paul Sperry teeet
“ BREAKING: New FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith criminal pleading reveals Crossfire Hurricane team recv'd memo from CIA exculpating Trump adviser Carter Page on Aug. 17, 2016--1 day after FBI formally opened individual case against Page & 2 mos before it obtained 1st spy warrant on him”
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Couldn't find a meme with a tree and a rope, huh.

You're fucking disgusting. I sincerely hope you get dick cancer.
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