Stop the BNP avertising campaign

Toilet & Bowels · 05.22.2009, 05:52 PM

Apparently the BNP have bought advertising space on Clear Channel billboards, please send an email of complaint to Clear Channel via this link, it only takes a few seconds

http://action.hopenothate.org.uk/integrity

Derek · 05.22.2009, 06:00 PM

Someone posted a BNP leaflet through my door the other day and I ripped it up and threw it in the bin as soon as I could.

Derek · 05.22.2009, 06:07 PM

Anyway, sent an email.

jon boy · 05.22.2009, 06:16 PM

did you see charlie brookers article in the guardian about the BNP political broadcast on tv? he likened it to a cheap pizza menu which is pretty much what it is, gaudy, bright colours and cheap. the opening line of the broadcast was 'dont turn it off' which is like saying 'dont be sick' to someone your about to sleep with.

anyway email will be sent.

Toilet & Bowels · 05.22.2009, 06:22 PM

thanks

please forward link to everyone you know also

Savage Clone · 05.22.2009, 06:32 PM

I'm by no means a supporter of this stuff, but isn't this what is commonly referred to as free speech?

Oh yeah, you guys don't have that over there. Carry on.

Derek · 05.22.2009, 06:35 PM

Free speech is entitled until they become just plain offensive... and trying to get rid of all ethnic minorities seems very offensive to me.

Hey, if Hitler rose from the dead and ran for election would you just say, "meh, it's free speech!"

It's basically the same, these guys are just neo-nazis and proven to have links with such parties.

Danny Himself · 05.22.2009, 06:38 PM

"wogs go home"

Savage Clone · 05.22.2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek

Free speech is entitled until they become just plain offensive... and trying to get rid of all ethnic minorities seems very offensive to me.

Hey, if Hitler rose from the dead and ran for election would you just say, "meh, it's free speech!"

It's basically the same, these guys are just neo-nazis and proven to have links with such parties.

Fair point.

Toilet & Bowels · 05.22.2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Fair point.

Plus with politics here in currently in a total state of disarray there's serious concern that the bnp may make gains in the forthcoming elections

This Is Not Here · 05.22.2009, 07:24 PM

I was pretty shocked by their training camps/youth recruitment plans discussed on Have I Got News For You. Jesus.

jon boy · 05.22.2009, 07:38 PM

that little snot mark collet used to live near me in leeds. he could hardly show his face after that documentary was shown. i saw him walking to work one day and could hardly keep myself from punching the little bugger. i think i just called him a cunt and kept going. i wanted to hit him though.

Glice · 05.22.2009, 07:55 PM

I'm very torn on this matter. The problem, as I see it, is that if no-one bothered to kick up a stink about the BNP, they would be a minority concern, akin to the Green or somesuch. As it is, they've usurped NF and C18 (and other smaller factions) because they have a smidge of democratic clout. The thing is, I resolutely defend their right to exist, and naively hope that the world will do the decent thing and ignore them. One of the good things about not having a constitution is that as soon as they step out of line there's nothing fundamental stopping Whitehall from slapping them down like bitches.

joe11121 · 05.22.2009, 09:11 PM

I sent my email

ZEROpumpkins · 05.22.2009, 09:58 PM

BNP = British National Party or something, right?
I can't believe they're advertising! That's pretty fucked, spreading closed minded and old fashioned views like that.

Lamont Cranston · 05.22.2009, 10:50 PM

if you dont believe in free speech for views you despise, then you dont believe in free speech

Lamont Cranston · 05.22.2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Fair point.

No, its not. Unless they're telling someone with a gun "shoot, shoot, shoot" then it is free speech.

Consider we ban public dissemination of views like that of the BNP well for a start that establishes a siege mentality on their part and nothing engenders support like being a victim, but will they stop? No of course not, those views simply go underground and in the meanwhile the BNP amps up their populist 'fed up with the system' anti-politics and eventually nobody knows what they're planning until after they are in office.

ZEROpumpkins · 05.22.2009, 11:11 PM

The problem is, BNP aren't stating exactly what they are doing, and are only presenting basic, positive facts about themselves. Obviously this is the point of advertising, but I'll be dammed if there's a brand of cereal I eat that has ties to Nazi organisations.

Lamont Cranston · 05.23.2009, 01:06 AM

I hope you dont drink Fanta then ZEROpumpkins.

A broader question would be where is the appeal for the BNP coming from? Well it might have to do with the Bretton Woods system dismantled in the 1970s and Thatcher in the 1980s - I'd imagine an awful lot of people have been left suffering. Out of work, long hours and bad pay when they can get work, poor living conditions, etc. And among the ones hardest hit by this are the people who are supposed to do well. And they're left wondering whats gone wrong, they're atomized theres little or no social organization, the two main parties represent factions of the Business Party, and then along comes a group with a Big Lie to explain who is at fault.
Anyone doing anything to counter this?

MellySingsDoom · 05.23.2009, 01:25 AM

I agree with what Glice says on this. E-mail has also been sent by me.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Clear Channel a US-based organisation with quite a few links to Christian Fundamentalist organisations?

05.22.2009, 05:52 PM	#1
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,225	Apparently the BNP have bought advertising space on Clear Channel billboards, please send an email of complaint to Clear Channel via this link, it only takes a few seconds http://action.hopenothate.org.uk/integrity
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Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	Someone posted a BNP leaflet through my door the other day and I ripped it up and threw it in the bin as soon as I could.
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Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	Anyway, sent an email.
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jon boy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: psycho battery Posts: 12,161	did you see charlie brookers article in the guardian about the BNP political broadcast on tv? he likened it to a cheap pizza menu which is pretty much what it is, gaudy, bright colours and cheap. the opening line of the broadcast was 'dont turn it off' which is like saying 'dont be sick' to someone your about to sleep with. anyway email will be sent. __________________ Sarcasm[A] is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing \|@ <------- Euphoric brain cell just moments before expiration V _ \ / _ PING <-------- moments later / \ http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljhxq...isruo1_500.gif
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,225	thanks please forward link to everyone you know also
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05.22.2009, 06:32 PM	#6
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,287	I'm by no means a supporter of this stuff, but isn't this what is commonly referred to as free speech? Oh yeah, you guys don't have that over there. Carry on.
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05.22.2009, 06:35 PM	#7
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	Free speech is entitled until they become just plain offensive... and trying to get rid of all ethnic minorities seems very offensive to me. Hey, if Hitler rose from the dead and ran for election would you just say, "meh, it's free speech!" It's basically the same, these guys are just neo-nazis and proven to have links with such parties.
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Danny Himself invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,623	"wogs go home"
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This Is Not Here invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kingston-Upon-Thames, London Posts: 2,586	I was pretty shocked by their training camps/youth recruitment plans discussed on Have I Got News For You. Jesus. __________________ http://images.google.co.uk/url?sourc...zLTl_B146tcuiw ~~Record of the moment~~
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05.22.2009, 07:38 PM	#12
jon boy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: psycho battery Posts: 12,161	that little snot mark collet used to live near me in leeds. he could hardly show his face after that documentary was shown. i saw him walking to work one day and could hardly keep myself from punching the little bugger. i think i just called him a cunt and kept going. i wanted to hit him though. __________________ Sarcasm[A] is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing \|@ <------- Euphoric brain cell just moments before expiration V _ \ / _ PING <-------- moments later / \ http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljhxq...isruo1_500.gif
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05.22.2009, 09:11 PM	#14
joe11121 expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brantford, Canada Posts: 1,843	I sent my email
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05.22.2009, 09:58 PM	#15
ZEROpumpkins invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 6,157	BNP = British National Party or something, right? I can't believe they're advertising! That's pretty fucked, spreading closed minded and old fashioned views like that. __________________
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05.22.2009, 10:50 PM	#16
Lamont Cranston 100% Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 725	if you dont believe in free speech for views you despise, then you dont believe in free speech __________________ This is how it will all end: not with floods, earthquakes, falling comets or gigantic crabs roaming the Earth. No, doomsday will start simply out of indifference.
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05.22.2009, 11:11 PM	#18
ZEROpumpkins invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 6,157	The problem is, BNP aren't stating exactly what they are doing, and are only presenting basic, positive facts about themselves. Obviously this is the point of advertising, but I'll be dammed if there's a brand of cereal I eat that has ties to Nazi organisations. __________________
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05.23.2009, 01:06 AM	#19
Lamont Cranston 100% Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 725	I hope you dont drink Fanta then ZEROpumpkins. A broader question would be where is the appeal for the BNP coming from? Well it might have to do with the Bretton Woods system dismantled in the 1970s and Thatcher in the 1980s - I'd imagine an awful lot of people have been left suffering. Out of work, long hours and bad pay when they can get work, poor living conditions, etc. And among the ones hardest hit by this are the people who are supposed to do well. And they're left wondering whats gone wrong, they're atomized theres little or no social organization, the two main parties represent factions of the Business Party, and then along comes a group with a Big Lie to explain who is at fault. Anyone doing anything to counter this? __________________ This is how it will all end: not with floods, earthquakes, falling comets or gigantic crabs roaming the Earth. No, doomsday will start simply out of indifference.
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05.23.2009, 01:25 AM	#20
MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	I agree with what Glice says on this. E-mail has also been sent by me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Clear Channel a US-based organisation with quite a few links to Christian Fundamentalist organisations? __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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